Tag: Home Of Tamils

  • Tamils Homeland Lemuria Kumarikandam Three Million Years Old

    Tamils Homeland Lemuria Kumarikandam Three Million Years Old

    I had written about the antiquity of Tamils and its close connections to Sanatana Dharma.

    One intriguing fact,I have mentioned in many articles,is about Shiva Worship.

    While Shiva is mentioned rarely in the Vedas directlty,save Srirudram,no Sukthas directly addressed to Shiva,Tamil literature speaks extensively about Shiva.

    While the legend of Shiva is limited to His Marriage with Uma(Parvathi,daughter of Himavan,Daksha) her self immolation in the sacrificial fire in the Yagnya conducted by Her father,And Shiva carrying the body of UMA and the coming into being of the 108 Shakti Peetas,the Tamil literature speaks of 64 Avatars of Shiva,His formulation of Tamil as a language,his sons,apart from Ganesha,Murugan(Subrahmanya)Veerabaahu,Navaveeras,Rudrasena.

    And Shiva is called the First Yogi with Sage Agastya,Bhogar and Patanjali as His disciples among others.

    Rama is reported to have worshipped Shiva in many places in South India,including Rameswaram.

    This probably is one of the strongest clues that Shiva cult preceded Ramayana.

    The Sangam classics,dated around 3000 BC,speak of Shiva.

    In the light of archelogical findings at Poompuhar,Tamil Nadu sets the Sangam classics by 30,000 Years.

    So this is another clue.

    The next is Tamil being spoken ,even today,in Afghanisthan as a dialect and in Nortwest frontier province of Pakistan.

    I had written that Tamils had a second Capital in the Nortwest of India.

    Kind Sibi,a Chola king ruled from there.

    He invaded the south and built a Temple in Thirivellarai,near Srirangam,Tamil Nadu for Pundarikaksha,(Vishnu).

    Sibi and Manu(not Manusmriti Manu) were Cholas and ancestors of Lord Rama

    *please read my articles on these.

    So we have two issues.

    Tamils preceded Ramayana.

    They were present in the northwest of India.

    There is evidence that the Tamils lived somewhere near the Gulf of Cambay,Gujarat.

    Shall write a detailed article on this.

    The present article is about the date of Tamils,whose homeland was Lemuria,/Kumarikandam,/MU)

    These three could have been one landmass are different but what can not be disputed is that the land was Tamils homeland.

    How old is this land and the people?

    Before proceeding further it would be relevant to know about the geographical landmarks provided in Tamil classics.

    Sangam literature mentions ‘Thrivengadam’Vada Vengadam’ as the Nothern boundary of Tamil Homeland.

    Currently,Tirupati is taken as Venkatam.

    This forms a part of Seshacham range of hills and it dates back to 200 million years.

    Himalayas were formed only about 70 million years ago.

    The reference to Himalayas are not found in Lemuria.

    What we have now in Tamil is the works belonging to the The Third Tamil Sangam and one finds reference to Himalayas.

    The earlier works belonging to second and first Tamil Sangam were lost due to Tsunami.

    They could have contained more references to Lemuria.

    The reason why Himalayas is not found in Lemuria is because Himalayas was not formed then while Seshachalalam, Vada vengadam was in existence.

    I shall be writing on the mountains,rivers of Lemuria as found in Tamil classics.

    In as much as Vengadam is mentioned and not Himalayas,it is safe to postulate that Tamils refer to a period when Seshachalam was in existence and Himalayas yet to be Formed.

    Thiruvannamalai,which has a Shiva temple representing Shiva as Fire is 3.94 Billion years old.
    Thirupati,Seshachalam is 2100 million years old.

    Thirupati Balaji aarthi. image
    Thirupati Balaji,Seshachachalam.

    These dates have been verified by Tectonics and Infrared imaging technology.

    Now more evidence about Lemuria,Home of Tamils,being 200 million years old.

    Featured image credit. http://www.theeventchronicle.com/study/lemuria-australia-pacific/#

    This page created for  trivia and commentary regarding the Tretya Yuga [Silver Age]and the continent of Mu, or Lemuria. [- E.M.]

    *Trivia: “[….] The Tretya Yuga, or Silver Age, came after the breakup of the previous age, when Lemuria, by earthquakes and tidal waves, went down under the seas. [….]” [Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, p. 113, Second Edition – 1988] 

    *Trivia: “[….] These records tell us that the legendary paradise of man, thought of as the Garden of Eden, was laid on the lost continent of Lemuria which was sunk by earthquakes and tidal waves fifty thousand years ago. [….]” [Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, Second Edition – 1988, p. 107]

       Considered to be Earth’s first great civilization, Mu [Lemuria] could naturally be placed in the *Golden Age [about 3,891,102 B.C. – 2,163,102 B.C.] in order to fit a popular mythological paradigm of four [Gold, Silver, Bronze, Iron] great ages. My dates for these four ages [Yugas] were figured by using 3,102 B.C. as a starting date for Kali Yuga [Iron Age] and subtracting the appropriate fractions from 4,320,000 years to determine the rest. Most remarkable, perhaps, is the fact Paul Twitchell appeared to suggest two dates [separated by nearly 2 million years] for the destruction of Lemuria: roughly 2 million B.C. & 50,000 B.C. What are the reasons for these two dates? Can a continent sink twice? Or, during his research, was Paul Twitchell faced with more than one popular paradigm concerning the beginning of civilization? [- E.M.]

    * See: pp. 16 and 98 (or Index page reference for Yuga / Satya) The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, Book One, by Paul Twitchell; p.77 (or Index page reference for Age / Golden) The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, Book Two, by Paul Twitchell; pp. 55 and 163 (or Index page reference for Satya Yuga & Tretya Yuga) The ECK-VIDYA Ancient Science of Prophecy, by Paul Twitchell.

    *Trivia: “[….] The destruction of the kingdom of Lemuria and all its colonial empire came about by gas pockets under the crust of the earth some hundreds of thousands of years ago. It was a land of the Aryans who spread the empire throughout the world. [….]” [Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, seventh printing, 1982, p. 97 & eighth printing, 1986, p. 97 ]

    *Trivia: “[….] The destruction of the kingdom of Lemuria and all its colonial empire came about by gas pockets under the crust of the earth that formed some hundreds of thousands of years ago. [….]” [Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, Second Edition – 1988, p. 112]

    *Note: “Paul Twitchell died in September, 1971.” [– E.M]

       The foregoing two sections of text appear not entirely the same. The newer edition [1988] contains the words that formed. To me [at least for now], this appears to suggest that [hundreds of thousands of years ago] gas pockets were formed under the crust of the earth. The older version of this text [1982 & 1986], however, “appears to suggest” it was the destruction of Lemuria that happened hundreds of thousands of years ago. That is, before the beginning of the Tretya Yuga about 2 million B.C. [- E.M.]

    Col. James Churchward suggests a starting date for Mu [Lemuria] at about 200,000 B.C. He bases this date, allegedly, on ancient Nacaal tablets. According to the position of certain stars recorded on those tablets [according, that is, to the conclusion of certain astronomers], he thus determines the date. On the other hand, the final destruction of Mu, according to Churchward, appears to have taken place between 10,000 & 11,000 years B.C.” [- E.M.]

       So here we have a case of popular apparent history for one of the oldest recorded civilizations on earth. One that, according to such history, apparently sank beneath the waves of the Pacific Ocean anywhere from 2 million to 10,000 years B.C.
    Even more astonishing, perhaps, is the classic church story about how the Garden of Eden and the beginning of the world began at just around 4,000 B.C. Only in the last two hundred years have other older dates for creation really begun to gain public attention. Writers contemporary with the 20th and 21st centuries were once engaged with promoting dates of between ten and fifteen thousand years B.C. for the Biblical flood; not to mention the beginning of man on earth – which probably goes back even further. Of course, some contemporary authors now favor the idea of all four Hindu yugas corresponding – more or less – with the popular 5,000-plus-year cycle for Mayan “suns”, which could have the oldest of them beginning around the 4th millennium B.C.
    Obviously, a paradigm shift has been taking place for a number of years. A regular see-saw of dates, or a “hall of mirrors” that “seems to matter”. [- E.M.]

    Source. 

    http://mirrorh.com/mu.html 

  •  Lemuria The Home of Tamils My Tedtalk at Coimbatore.

     Lemuria The Home of Tamils My Tedtalk at Coimbatore.

    I delivered a talk under the aegis of Tedx ,Combatore on April 8th.

    The event was streamed live.

    I am yet to receive the video or the photographs from the event organisers.

    I saw the photos at Tedx Coimbatore site.

    Ramanan. Image.
    Ramanan at Tedx Coimbatore.

    This is is at Flickr.

    Ramanan Tedtalk.image.
    Ramanan Tedtalk Coimbatore.
    Kumarikandam.image.
    Kumarikandam, Ramanis blog

     

    Many readers ,who have watched the event Live, have been asking me to share the material.

    As I had told the organisers I am very uncomfortable speaking from a prepared text or notes and I speak extempore.

    As the time allotted was 13 minutes, I had to prepare notes and it was a novel and nerve racking experience for me to take notes and rehearse at 1.30 am(?), with two people with Timers.

    It is a different matter that I did not follow the prepared text to the letter in the Talk,though I was  informed stuck to points and ppt thrown up on the screen.

    I am reproducing the Talk from the notes I had prepared.

    I shall share the video as and when received.

    ‘ Earth .1 Billion Years Ago. Note India near the present Arctic.

    Rodina ,Super Continent. Image.
    Rodina,the Super Continent 1.1 billion years ago.

    Lemuria Boundary.

    Lemuria,the sunken Continent .

    Gadira,Spain, in the West

    Australia, in the East

    Vindhya Mountains in the North

    Then Madurai in the South.

    Southern  End of Lemuria  was located to the south of Kanyakumari,Then Madurai

    Covered an area of 700 kavatam- Nakkerar in his commentry of Iraiynar Agapporul

    One Kavatam Is Ten Miles.

    Sage Agastya is found in New Zealand

    Shiva Trinetra Dance by Australian Aborigines

    Cookes Island,Lake Pukkaki. ,New Zealand referred in Sundarakanda,Ramayana

    Kanyakumari to New Zealand 11204 km or 7002 miles

    Lemuria From North to South .Vindhyas to Then Madurai(near New Zealand)

    Population of Lemuria.

    64 Million

    (James Churchwad.)

    Lands in Lemuria.
    Elu teñku natu (“Seven coconut lands”)

    Elu Maturai natu (“Seven mango lands”)

    Elu munpalai natu (“Seven front sandy lands”)

    Elu pinpalai natu (“Seven back sandy lands”)

    Elu kunra natu (“Seven hilly lands”)

    Elu kunakarai natu (“Seven coastal lands”)

    Elu kurumpanai natu (“Seven dwarf-palm lands”)’ –

    -Adiyarrkku Nallar in commentary on Silappadikaram.

    Lemuria, Timeline.

    200,000 to 50,000 BC: evolution of “the Tamilian or Homo Dravida”,ca. 200,000 to 100,000 BC: beginnings of the Tamil language50,000 BC: Kumari Kandam civilisation20,000 BC: A lost Tamil culture of the Easter Island which had an advanced civilisation16,000 BC: Lemuria submerged6087 BC: Second Tamil Sangam established by a Pandya king3031 BC: A Chera prince in his wanderings in the Solomon Island saw wild sugarcane and started cultivation in Tamilnadu.1780 BC: The Third Tamil Sangam established by a Pandya king7th century BC: Tolkappiyam (the earliest extant Tamil grammer)…

    -Tamil Etymological Dictionary Project,Govt. Of Tamil Nadu.

    Tamil Sangam Literature.

    Ettuththogai-Eight Works

    Pathuppattu-Ten Works.

    Pathinen Melkanakku-Eighteen Works

    Pathinen Keezhkkanakku-Eighteen Works.

    These belong to Sangam Period.,possibly the Third Sangam

    Agathiyam,First Sangam- Lost

    Tholkaapiyam ,oldest available work is dated 865 BC

    Lemuria,Proof.

    1.Naan Madol Ruins in  Federated States of Micronesia,Western Pacific.
    2.Poompuhar

    An old port  Poompuhar, mentioned in early Tamil Classics, especially in detail in the Silappadikaram, has been found and it reveals a Man made Port of 11000 Years!
    3.Attirampakkam site

    Stone Age Site 60 km from,Chennai

    One hundred and fifty years ago, on May 30, 1863, young geologist Robert Bruce Foote bent down and picked up a stone tool on the Parade Ground at Pallavaram cantonment, near Chennai. It turned out to be an epochal discovery. Foote’s discovery revolutionised the study of India’s pre-history.

    Attirampakkam (13°13′50″N, 79°53′20″E, 38.35 m a.s.l), is an open-air Palaeolithic site situated near a meandering tributary stream of the river Kortallaiyar, northwest of Chennai.

    4.Perunchotru Udiyan Neduncheralaathan Provided food Mahabharata War.

    Malayathwaja Pandya,Madurai Meenakshi’s father took part in the War.

    Krishna Married a Pandyan Princess,had a daughter.

    Balarama worshiped Murugan.

    Satyavrata Manu,Rama’s ancestor, was a Dravida King.

    Sibi,ancestor of Rama built a Vishnu Temple,Thiruvellarai,near Srirangam.

    5.Tamil names in Harappa,Mohenjadaro Region,includes Town names.
    சிந்துவெளி மற்றும் அரப்பாவில் ”கொற்கை, வஞ்சி, தொண்டி வளாகம்”சிந்துவெளியில் சங்கத் தமிழரின் துறைமுகங்கள், தலைநகரங்கள் மற்றும் ஊர்களின் பெயர்கள்பாகிஸ்தானிலுள்ள கொற்கை (Gorkai. Gorkhai), வஞ்சி (Vanji), தொண்டி(Tondi), மத்ரை (Matrai), உறை (Urai), கூடல் கட் (Kudal Garh) மற்றும் கோளி (Koli); ஆப்கானிஸ்தானிலுள்ள கொற்கை (Korkay. Gorkay). பூம்பகார் (Pumbakar) ஆகிய ஊர்ப் பெயர்கள் சங்க இலக்கியங்களில் குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ள தலைநகரங்கள் மற்றும் துறைமுக நகரங்களின் பெயர்களான கொற்கை. வஞ்சி. தொண்டி. மதுரை. உறையூர். கூடல். கோழி. பூம்புகார் ஆகியவற்றை நினைவுபடுத்துகின்றன.’
    6.The present formations of India, Arabia, Africa, Antarctica, South America and Australia started breaking up due to natural upheavals and moving to different parts of the earth at the rate of 15,000 years per mile on an average and found their places in the Asian Continent. The movement of the earth mass, called Navalam Theevu in Tamil, caused the formation of the present continent of India.(McKenzie and Sclater American Geologists).

    7.Lemuria, one of the world’s oldest civilizations, about 2.5 lakh years ago, in Indonesia. Hence, Lemuria and Kumari Kandam, which existed in southern part of India, are different lands.

    (Frank Joseph, Secretary for Ancient American Association, in his book “The Lost Civilization of Lemuria”, )

    8.It was only during the final days of Atlantis that the Lemurians broke these seals and thus saved many surface dwellers from certain death. These people formed a society that subsequently returned for a time to the surface and became the Rama Empire situated in Southern Asia. Then the Great Flood of 8,000 BC ended this attempt to save humanity from the dark ways of the Anunnaki.  (Atlantis Legend)

    The points mentioned are explained in detail in the site, Category ,Tamils.

    I shall locate them and share as, as usual I forgot.

    This was what I intended to speak.

    Question: Who here can remember the name of their great, great

    grandfather?

    Glory of Tamil Language

    1) A language which is so structured that the sounds of the alphabet

    are reflected in its very name – Tamil

    2) Complex and Noble thoughts – 7 words – Tirukural. Long poetic

    story in 1 sentence without full stop – Silapadikaram

    3) Helps you think clearly and express precisely – because of its

    mathematically oriented grammatic structure (Short example)

    4) Ranked on par with Sanskrit – Evolved to grammatical precision

    over 1,50,000 years

    Where did this language come from? My research has revealed

    that it comes from a lost continent – a continent called Kumari

    Kandam.

    (Describing geography and size of Kumari Kandam)

    1) Kumari Kandam – Named after Kanyakumari

    2) It was immense having a land mass of 34 million square miles –

    approximately 29 times the size of present India. And it had a

    population of 64 million.

    3) It extended to Newzealand, spain etc.

    4) Traces of Lemuria can be found even today – Agastya in New

    Zealand, Shiva dance in Australia, Boomerang as an ancient

    weapon.

    5) So diverse – It was divided into 7 groups of 7 each, totalling 49

    territories – Mango land, coconut land etc

    6) And there was something special about those territories –

    Question to audience – How many here have family deities –

    please raise hand. Actually very ancient custom – In Kumari

    Kantam they assigned different Gods to different lands.

    What kind of a society did they have?

    Very intricate and elaborate society structure. For instance, lets take

    marriage – how many types of marriage do we have today? I would say

    3 types – Arranges, Love and Elopment/Running Away.

    In Kumari Kantam they had 7 types of marriage… What happened to this society?

    Unfortunately a tsunami destroyed Kumari Kandam in1780 BC

    approximately. Only remnants of this great society can be found

    throughout the world. Let’s look at a few remnants in India.

    1) Remnants of Great literature

    2) Poomphuhar etc.

    3) Traditions such as Ancestory worship, Pongal, Adi Perukku, Chitra

    Pournami

    Conclusion

    In conclusion , I’d like to leave you with a few thoughts on the

    amazingly pervasive nature of Tamil culture.

    1) Manu – Man, First human being was a king of Tamil nation

    2) A Tamil Chera king was such a legendary figure for his honesty

    and integrity that he was appointed to feed the warring armies

    in Mahabarata.

    3) Tamil has a great soul! City is mine and everyone is my relativE.

    What I actually spoke will be known when I receive the Video.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/114769084@N04