Tag: Damayanti

  • Cholas Ancestors of Rama?

    The genealogy of Manu is very interesting.

    Manu is reported to be the first Man.

    Hence the name Manusha(Sanskrit),Manithan(Tamil), Man (English).

    Manu meditated in Madagascar while a Tsunami struck and His son Ikshvaku left for Ayodhya with his sons.

    His son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku dynasty ,the Solar Dynasty , to which Lord Rama belongs.

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    But what happened to Manu’s daughters?

    A detailed research reveals interesting information.

    Manu had a daughter Ila.

    She was married to Chandra,Moon and the offspring was Budha.

    While many versions of the tale exist, Ila is usually described as a daughter or son of Vaivasvata Manu and thus the sibling of Ikshvaku, the founder of the Solar Dynasty. In versions in which Ila is born female, she changes into a male form by divine grace soon after her birth. After mistakenly entering a sacred grove as an adult, Ila is either cursed to change his/her gender every month or cursed to become a woman. As a woman, Ilā married Budha, the god of the planet Mercury and the son of the lunar deity Chandra (Soma), and bore him a son called Pururavas, the father of the Lunar dynasty. After the birth of Pururavas, Ilā is transformed into a man again and fathered three sons.

    In the Vedas, Ilā is praised as Idā (Sanskrit: इडा), goddess of speech, and described as mother of Pururavas. ‘

    She begot a son Pururavas.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ila_(Hinduism)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ila_(Hinduism)

    Hence the descendants of this Dynasty were called the Lunar Dynasty, Chandra Vamsa.

    The Kuru Dynasty of Mahabharata,which was named after one of the ancestors.

    Manu had a grand daughter through his daughter called Dakshina,one meaning of the term is South.

    It is probable that she was the founder of the Lunar Dynasty , she was also called Ila.

    Ila’s son was called Ellalan,who ruled the south.

    Ellalan in Tamil means ‘one who rules the boundaries’

    He was a king of the present Sri Lanka.

    Mahavamsa of Sri Lanka records that he was a Chola and a noble king.

     

    He was also called as Manu Needhi Chola, A Chola King in Dravida Desa.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellalan

     

    Now there is the famous Emperor Sibi who belonged to Solar Dynasty.

     

    His date preceds Rama’s.

    ‘The words “Kumari Kandam” first appear in Kanda Puranam, a 15th-century Tamil version of the Skanda Purana, written by Kachiappa Sivacharyara (1350-1420).[3] Although the Tamil revivalists insist that it is a pure Tamil name, it is actually a derivative of the Sanskrit words “Kumarika Khanda”.The Andakosappadalam section of Kanda Puranam describes the following cosmological model of the universe: There are many worlds, each having several continents, which in turn, have several kingdoms. Paratan, the ruler of one such kingdom, had eight sons and one daughter. He further divided his kingdom into nine parts, and the part ruled by his daughter Kumari came to be known as Kumari Kandam after her. Kumari Kandam is described as the kingdom of the Earth. Although the Kumari Kandam theory became popular among anti-Brahmin anti-Sanskrit Tamil nationalists, the Kanda Puranam actually describes Kumari Kandam as the land where the Brahmins also reside, where Shiva is worshipped and where the Vedas are recited. The rest of the kingdoms are described as the territory of the mlecchas.[5]

    He ruled from the north and conquered the south, defeating his maternal cousins.

    This is recorded in the Temple history of Thiruvellarai, temple dedicated to Lord Vishnu as Pundarikaksha.

    Please read my detailed article on this.

    This Vishnu temple is older than Sri Rangam Ranganatha Temple in Tamil Nadu.

    Ramayana records that Vibhishana requested the Idol of Lord Ranganatha from Lord Rama and though Rama gave him, Vishnu,Ranganatha stayed back at Sri Rangam, where He faces Sri Lanka.

    So the Cholas were the ancestors of Rama and not the other war around.

    (I have written earlier that Cholas were descendants of Rama. As this blog is research oriented I write as I come by evidence. So there is updation and clarification and there is no contradiction.)

    Considering the facts,

    ‘Manu left for the North because of A Tsunami

    Tamil is an ancient language of India which runs parallel to Sanskrit.

    A Million year old site found near Chennai records an advanced Tamil civilization.

    The sunken harbor of Poompuhar, Tamil Nadu, which is spoken of in detail in the Tamil Epic Cilappadikaram,is dated 20,000 years ago..

    Such an old culture refers to Sanskrit and Sanskrit in turn refers to Tamil.

    Then there is Sage Agastya who is present both in Tamil and Sanskrit.

    So is Sage Valmiki who is considered to be a Siddha and has written poems in Tamil.

    Such an intimacy between Sanatana Dharma and Tamils, yet there are differences though they present a unified picture!

    This has been a question I have been seeking  an answer to.

    The fact that Manu was from the South, Dravida.

    • One has to remember that the landmass in those ancient days was different and it has no relevance to what we call as North or South India now…

    Lord Rama refused to fight against the Lemurians while he was fighting the Atlantis people saying that Lemurians were his ancestors,

    Ravana,s ancestors Malyavan and Kubera were also from the area we now call as Lemuria

    https://ramanisblog.in/2016/11/10/dravida-lunar-culture-founded-by-ila-manu-daughter-ikshvaku-dynasty/

    It may be noted that,

    Shiva worship  in the Dravida desa  preceded Vedic  period,

    The Tamils though a part of Sanatana Dharma , their methods of worship of Shiva was different,

    The Siddha system and Yoga pre date Patanjal’s Yoga Sutra.

    The influence of Tamil mode of worship in fareastern countries is greater than Vishnu worship.

     

    It stands to reason to postulate thar the Cholas preceded Ramayan and this can also be confirmed by the fact tha Tamil Kings were present during Damayanti’s Swayamvar.

    Nala and Damayanti predate Rama.

    One may also note thar there is Ila people in Zambia.

    A tribe in Cameroon still speak Tamil.

    Hittie civilization has its in Tamils.

    The genealogy of Manu dynasty .

    Maitreya said: Svāyambhuva Manu begot three daughters in his wife Śatarūpā, and their names were Ākūti, Devahūti and Prasūti.

    SB 4.1.2: Ākūti had two brothers, but in spite of her brothers, King Svāyambhuva Manu handed her over to Prajāpati Ruci on the condition that the son born of her be returned to Manu as his son. This he did in consultation with his wife, Śatarūpā.

    SB 4.1.3: Ruci, who was very powerful in his brahminical qualifications and was appointed one of the progenitors of the living entities, begot one son and one daughter by his wife, Ākūti.

    SB 4.1.4: Of the two children born of Ākūti, the male child was directly an incarnation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and His name was Yajña, which is another name of Lord Viṣṇu. The female child was a partial incarnation of Lakṣmī, the goddess of fortune, the eternal consort of Lord Viṣṇu.

    SB 4.1.5: Svāyambhuva Manu very gladly brought home the beautiful boy named Yajña, and Ruci, his son-in-law, kept with him the daughter, Dakṣiṇā.

    SB 4.1.6: The Lord of the ritualistic performance of yajña later married Dakṣiṇā, who was anxious to have the Personality of Godhead as her husband, and in this wife the Lord was also very much pleased to beget twelve children.

    SB 4.1.7: The twelve boys born of Yajña and Dakṣiṇā were named Toṣa, Pratoṣa, Santoṣa, Bhadra, Sānti, Iḍaspati, Idhma, Kavi, Vibhu, Svahna, Sudeva and Rocana.

    SB 4.1.8: During the time of Svāyambhuva Manu, these sons all became the demigods collectively named the Tuṣitas. Marīci became the head of the seven ṛṣis, and Yajña became the king of the demigods, Indra.

    SB 4.1.9: Svāyambhuva Manu’s two sons, Priyavrata and Uttānapāda, became very powerful kings, and their sons and grandsons spread all over the three worlds during that period.

    SB 4.1.10: My dear son, Svāyambhuva Manu handed over his very dear daughter Devahūti to Kardama Muni. I have already spoken to you about them, and you have heard about them almost in full.

    SB 4.1.11: Svāyambhuva Manu handed over his daughter Prasūti to the son of Brahmā named Dakṣa, who was also one of the progenitors of the living entities. The descendants of Dakṣa are spread throughout the three worlds.’

    http://vanisource.org/wiki/SB_4.1:_Genealogical_Table_of_the_Daughters_of_Manu

    Please read my articles on Daksha in Antarctica.

  • Balarama Worships Muruga In South Visits Pandyas

    Here is yet another proof that the South was a part of Sanatana Dharma, Aryan Dravidian Theory is a myth and the people of North India and South India were a part of the Glorious Bharatavarsha.

     

    Rama’s marriage was  graced by the Kings of South India.

     

     

    Damayanti’s Swayamwara had Tamil Kings presence.

     

    Lord Krishna married a Pandya Princess.

     

    Arjuna went on a pilgrimage to South and married a Pandya princess.

     

    Chola and Pandya Kings fought on the side of Pandavas in The Mahabharata War.

     

    Chera King fed both the Kaurava and Pandava armies and performed Sraddha , Obsequies for those killed in the war.

     

    The Vedas mention Lord Muruga as Skanda.

     

    Lord Balarama on a Pilgrimage to South met and worshiped Murugan in Mahendragiri, now in Tirunelveli Disrict.(This Mahendragiri is a different one from the one from in Odisha.

     

    He also met Parashurama there.

     

    It may be note that Parashurama was born in Treta Youga and was elder to Lord Rama and a Chiranjeevi, Immortal.

     

    Balarama also met Sage Agastya, visited Kanyakumari

     

    and worshiped Durga.

     

    The place he visited Muruga is Valliyur, 30 km from Tirunelveli,Tamil Nadu.

     

    Sri Balarama’s pilgrimage (Mahabharata 9 – Shalya Parva)

    “Then, given leave by the sages, the Lord went with a contingent of brahmanas to the Kausiki River, where He bathed. From there He went to the lake from which flows the river Sarayu.

    “The Lord followed the course of the Sarayu until He came to Prayaga, where He bathed and then performed rituals to propitiate the demigods and other living beings. Next He went to the asrama of Pulaha Rsi. [also known as Hari-ksetra]

    “Lord Balarama bathed in the Gomati, Gandaki and Vipasa rivers, and also immersed Himself in the Sona. He went to Gaya, where He worshiped His forefathers, and to the mouth of the Ganges, where He performed purifying ablutions. At Mount Mahendra He saw Lord Parasurama and offered Him prayers, and then He bathed in the seven branches of the Godavari River, and also in the rivers Vena, Pampa and Bhimarathi. Then Lord Balarama met Lord Skanda and visited Sri Saila, the abode of Lord Girisa. In the southern provinces known as Dravida-desa the Supreme Lord saw the sacred Venkata Hill, as well as the cities of Kamakosni and Kanci, the exalted Kaveri River and the most holy Sri-ranga, where Lord Krsna has manifested Himself. From there He went to Rsabha Mountain, where Lord Krsna also lives, and to the southern Mathura. Then He came to Setubandha, where the most grievous sins are destroyed.

    “There at Setubandha (Ramesvaram) Lord Halayudha gave brahmanas ten thousand cows in charity. He then visited the Krtamala and Tamraparni rivers and the great Malaya Mountains. In the Malaya range Lord Balarama found Agastya Rsi sitting in meditation. After bowing down to the sage, the Lord offered him prayers and then received blessings from him. Taking leave from Agastya, He proceeded to the shore of the southern ocean, where He saw Goddess Durga in her form of Kanya-kumari.

    “Next He went to Phalguna-tirtha and bathed in the sacred Pancapsara Lake, where Lord Visnu had directly manifested Himself. At this place He gave away another ten thousand cows.

    “The Supreme Lord then traveled through the kingdoms of Kerala and Trigarta, visiting Lord Siva’s sacred city of Gokarna, where Lord Dhurjati (Siva) directly manifests himself. After also visiting Goddess Parvati, who dwells on an island, Lord Balarama went to the holy district of Surparaka and bathed in the Tapi, Payosni and Nirvindhya rivers. He next entered the Dandaka forest and went to the river Reva, along which the city of Mahismati is found. Then He bathed at Manu-tirtha and finally returned to Prabhasa.” (SB 10.79.9-21)

     

    Citation.

     

    Bhagavatham.