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  • Babri Masjid Not Built by Babur

    Babri Masjid Not Built by Babur

    There is a saying on how to disseminate misinformation. It runs thus,’Suppressio veri,Suggestio Falsi

    That is ‘ Supress the Truth ,Suggest Falsehood’

    Classic example of this adage can be found in Indian history. Indian history being taught today is what the invaders wanted the subjugated to know. That is what is being studied in India right from School. The history would have one to believe that India had nothing before the arrival of Alexander!

    Other side is suggestion of things not of Indian origin as Indian and subtle manipulation of facts, history , monuments,temples and the like,thereby you feel alien in your own backyard.

    The manipulation is so great that one does not know he is being manipulated.

    One such manipulation is Babri Masjid.

    One would be shocked to find that the Babri Masjid was not built by Babur.

    Please read the following to know our History.

    ‘Baqi Tashqandi, also known as Mir Baqi or Mir Banki, was a Mughal commander (beg) originally from Tashkent (in modern Uzbekistan) during the reign of the first Mughal emperor Babur. He is widely believed to have been made the governor of the province of Awadh. He was believed to have razed the Ram mandir and built Babri Mosque in Ayodhya in 1528.Baburnama(Chronicle of Babur) mentions a commander called Baqi Tashkindi (Baqi of Tashkent). His name also appears with other suffixes: Baqi Shaghawal, Baqi Beg (commander) or Baqi Mingbashi (commander of a thousand troops). However, the chronicle does not describe him as a Mir (prince or noble). Police officer-turned-scholar Kishore Kunal believes that the appellation “Mir Baqi” was constructed in 1813–1814 in a forged inscription on Babri Masjid for the benefit of the British surveyor Francis Buchanan, and there was in fact no prince called “Mir Baqi” in Babur’s regime.

    Francis Buchanan

    also called Buchanan-Hamilton) did a survey of the Gorakhpur Division in 1813–14 on behalf of the British East India Company. Buchanan’s report, never published but available in the British Library archives, states that the Hindus generally attributed destruction of temples “to the furious zeal of Aurangzabe [Aurangzeb]”, but the large mosque at Ayodhya (now known as Babri Masjid) was ascertained to have been built by Babur by “an inscription on its walls”. Buchanan had the said inscription in Persian copied by a scribe and translated by a Maulvi friend. The translation however showed two inscriptions. The first inscription said that the mosque was constructed by ‘Mir Baqi’ in the year 935 AH or 923 AH. The second inscription narrated the genealogy of Aurangzeb.]The translator had a difficulty with the anagram for the date, because one of the words was missing, which would have resulted in a date of 923 AH rather than 935 AH. These incongruities and mismatches made no impression on Buchanan, who maintained that the mosque was built under the orders of Babur.

    The Babri Masjid stands at a location believed by Hindus to be the birthplace of Rama. There are no records of a mosque at the site till 1672 and no known association with Babur or Mir Baqi prior to Buchanan’s discovery of these inscriptions in the 19th century. The Baburnama does not mention either the mosque or the destruction of a temple.The Ramcharit Manas of Tulsidas (AD 1574) and Ain-i Akbari of Abu’l-Fazl ibn Mubarak (AD 1598) made no mention of a mosque either’

    Reference and citations.

    1. Noorani, A. G. (2003), The Babri Masjid Question, 1528-2003, Volume 1, Tulika Books, Introduction (p. xvii), ISBN
    2. ^ a b c Kunal, Ayodhya Revisited (2016), Chapter 6.
    3. ^ Kunal, Ayodhya Revisited (2016), pp. 142, 199.
    4. ^ a b c Kunal, Ayodhya Revisited (2016), Chapter 5.
    5. ^ K. Elst (1995). “The Ayodhya Debate”. In Gilbert Pollet (ed.). Indian Epic Values: Rāmāyaṇa and Its Impact. Peeters Publishers. pp. 28–29. ISBN 9789068317015.
    6. ^ Narain, The Ayodhya Temple Mosque Dispute (1993), p. 17.
    7. ^ Jain, Rama and Ayodhya (2013), pp. 165-166.
    8. ^ Jain, Rama and Ayodhya (2013), p. 9, 120, 164.
    9. ^ Kunal, Ayodhya Revisited (2016), p. xv.
    10. ^ Kunal, Ayodhya Revisited (2016), p. xxvii.
    11. ^ Jain, Rama and Ayodhya (2013), pp. 112-115.
    12. ^ Kunal, Ayodhya Revisited (2016), p.

  • Kings List India By Puranas Validated

    Indians believe the Timeline of India’s History as explained by William Jones and his followers, though their theory on the dates assigned to events and persons have been proved to be incorrect by many references and most importantly by archeology.

     

    If one were to mistrust the Hindu scriptures, the Nastika System of jainism which denies the authorit of the Vedas, has provided informationwhich tallies with the timeline and events portayed by the Puranas.

     

    Secondly the Archeological finds dispprove the dates assined by William Jones and others and show that the events and people had happened/lived much before the dates indicated by them

     

    ”

    Our history textbooks tell us that Magadha (not Ayodhya) was one of India’s first kingdoms and that Buddha and Mahavira were contemporaries who lived in/ around Magadha around 600 BCE. However, when we visit the sites of India’s so-called earliest centres of civilization (e.g., Sarnath where the Buddha preached his first sermon), we see evidence from the Jain tradition that its earlier Tirthankaras8 were already living in that city hundreds of years ago.9 On top of this, the Jains appear to share the same hoary past as the Hindus do, with their first Tirthankara (Rishabhadeva) believed to be the king of Ayodhya more than 20 generations before Mahavira.

    In addition to the Jain tradition, the history preserved in our native chronicles – the Puranas – appears to have some support from archaeology as well. Although most of the sites described in the Puranas are now populated and hence cannot be excavated, the few non-inhabited sites (e.g., Dwaraka) exhibit evidence of ancient civilizations. This begs the question as to whether we should truly discard the traditions preserved in India’s native chronicles or take the trouble to re-examine them in a new light. This essay presents the chronology of India as preserved by its native historians and tests the validity of this chronology when compared to independent accounts of ancient India.

     

    The accepted chronology of ancient India is based on William Jones’s identification of Sandrocottus with Chandragupta Maurya, the first king of the Mauryan empire. This identification serves as the basis for determining the era of Buddha, the dates of the subsequent kings of Magadha and of other kingdoms of India. According to this chronology, Chandragupta Maurya ascended the throne of Magadha around 315 BCE. However, the Puranas as well as Megasthenes’s account of the milieu he lived in present a compelling case for debunking this identification and associating Sandrocottus with Chandragupta I, the founder of the Imperial Guptas. According to the Puranas, Chandragupta Maurya was crowned in 1538 BCE, Ashoka was crowned in 1489 BCE, and Chandragupta I ascended the throne of Pataliputra around 315 BCE in time to be the monarch referred to as Sandrocottus when Megasthenes arrived in Pataliputra in 302 BCE. This essay presents the evidence for this Puranic chronology and aims to resolve other conundrums in Indian history, such as the age of Vikramaditya and Adi Sankara, with this revised timeline.”

     

    Then one has the astronomical data.

     

    This authenticates the Puranic Data.

     

    The problem with the astronomical data is that celestial events occur repeatedly at a fixed intervals and as such the difficulty lies in matching a particular astronomical event with the events described by our Puranas.

     

    Then one has Kalpas, a Kalpa being one day f Lord Brahma, the Creator and He creates 14 Manvantaras.

     

    This crestes additional dificulties to identify the Manvanatara, Kalpa and a particular event.

     

    This one can resove by referring to the Sankalpa being used by the Hindus for every religious  event.

     

    Please read my post Geo Tagging, Sankalpa.

     

    I became curious to check all these because i has found a refernce stating that Satyavrata Manu , the ancestor of Lord Rama migrate from the South to North because of a Tsunami.

     

    He went to Ayodhya and founded the Dynasty called Ikshvaku.

     

    There are five floods recoreded in Indian legends, both in Sanskrit and Tamil.

     

    This we can resolve by matching this information with references found in other texts and by archeology.

     

    The following verified information spurred me to search and arrive at a Kings List of India according to Puranas ans Tamil Classics.

     

    1.Lord Rama’s Date of Birth, Marriage,Exile, Ramayana War.

    2.Mahabharata War.

    3.Agasthya’s crossing over to South through the Vindhyas.

    4.Tamil Classics’s refernce to Tsunamis.

    5.The ancestry of Tamil Cholas to Manu and of Pandyas antiquity.

    6.The feeding of the armies of Kauravas and Pandavas by a Tamil King, Udiyan Neduncheralaathan.

    7.The artifacts and archeological finds of the remnants of Sanatana Dharma throuhout the world.

     

    And the Bhagavata reference to Satyavrata Manu leaving th south for the North because of a Tsunami.

     

    I have posted articles on all these issues,under Hinduism.

     

     

    List of Kings.

     

    India Kings List.jpg
    List of Indian Kings according to Puranas after primay creation. Click to enlarge.

     

    Kings,descendants of Vivasvat.jpg
    List of kings in the Vaivasvata (descendants of Vivasvat) Manvantara as stated in the Vishnu Purana.Click to enlarge.

     

    Indian Kings list upto Mahabharata War.jpg.
    List upto Mahabharata War.List of kings in the Vaivasvata Manvantara until the Great War as stated in the Vishnu Purana.Click to enlarge

    Kings List after Mahabharata War.jpg
    List of Kings in Kali Yuga(present Yuga). List of kings in the Kaliyuga (after the Great War) as stated in the Vishnu Purana.Click to enlarge

    Second List of Kings after Mahabharata War.jpg
    List of kings in the Kaliyuga (after the Great War) as stated in the Vishnu Purana. The Vidisha list is from the Vayu Purana.Click to enlarge.

     

    One may note that the Solar and Lunar dynasties married among themselves.

    The list incldes the names of Bimbisara, father of Ashoka.

    Reference and citations.

    http://bharatbhumika.blogspot.in/2014/08/puranic-chronology-of-india.html

     

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    http://ramanisblog.in/2014/12/03/world-history-timeline-by-rigveda/

  • Babur Demolished Rama Birth Place 1528 AD ,Tulsidas

    The issue of Rama Janmabhoomi-that of Lord Rama‘s Birth place-having been demolished by the Moghul Emperor Babur  is very sensitive in the sense

    that the ‘Secular Indians” (?) do not want to talk about History.

     

    Lot of references quoted against this fact.

     

    Lord Rama in a Tent, where He was Born.jpg
    Lord Rama in a Tent, where He was Born. Image Credit.http://krishnarjun108.wordpress.com/2012/06/22/hindu-nationalism-babri-destruction-hope-in-sangh-parivar/

     

    How about what a contemporary of Babur has to say on this?

     

    I am talking about Sri.Tulsdas of Sri Ramacharita Manas.

     

    He states   who and how the Rama Janmabhoomi was demolished by ‘Yavanas'(Mohammedans) in his works.

     

     

    ”

    ‘Yavans’

    (barbarians /Mohammedans) ridicule hymns, several

    Upnishads and treatises like Brahmans, Puranas, Itihas

    (histories) etc. and also the Hindu society (orthodox

    religion) having faith in them. They exploit the Hindu

    society in different ways.

     

     

    Goswami Tulsi Das says that forcible attempts are

    being made by Muslims to expel the followers of Hinduism

    from their own native place (country), forcibly divesting

    them of their Shikha (lock of hair on the crown of head)

    and ‘Yagyopaveet’ (sacrificial thread) and causing them to

    deviate from their religion……(Tulsishatak)

     

    ”

    Goswami Ji

    says that he indulged in gruesome genocide of the natives

    of that place (followers of Hinduism), using sword (army).

    Gowami Tulsi Das Ji says that countless atrocities

    were committed by foolish ‘Yavans’ (Mohammedans) in

    Awadh (Ayodhya) in and around the summer of Samvat

    1585, that is, 1528 AD (Samvat 1585- 57=1528 AD).

     

     

    Describing the attack made by ‘Yavans’, that is,

    Mohammedans on Sri Ramjanambhumi temple, Tulsi Das

    Ji says that after a number of Hindus had been mercilessly

    killed, Sri Ram Janam Bhumi temple was broken to make it

    a mosque.

     

    Looking at the ruthless killing of Hindus, Tulsi Ji

    says that his heart felt aggrieved, that is, it began to weep,

    and on account of incident it continues to writhe in pain.

     

     

    Seeing the mosque constructed by Mir Baqi in

    Awadh, that is, Ayodhya in the wake of demolition of Sri

    Ram Janam Bhumi temple preceded by the grisly killing of

    followers of Hinduism having faith in Rama and also

    seeing the bad plight of the temple of his favoured deity

    Rama, the heart of Tulsi began to always cry tearfully for

    Raghuraj (the most revered among the scions of the Raghu

    Dynasty).

     

    Being aggrieved thereby, submitting himself to

    the will of Sri Rama, he shouted: O Ram ! Save….Save…

    Tulsi Das Ji says that the mosque was constructed by

    the wicked Mir Baqi after demolishing Sri Ram Janam

    Bhumi temple, situated in the middle of Awadh, that is,

     

     

    Tulsi Das Ji says that the Quran as well as Ajaan call

    is heard from the holy place of Sri Ram Janam Bhumi,

    where discourses from Shrutis, Vedas, Puranas, Upnishads

    etc. used to be always heard and which used to be

    constantly reverberated with sweet sound of bells.”

     

    Date of Tulsidas.

     

    Goswami Tulsidas; 1497/1532–1623)

     

    Date of Babur.

     

    Zahir-ud-din Muhammad Babur (14 February 1483 – 26 December 1530.

     

    Citation.

     

    http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2010/10/demolition-of-ram-janma-bhumi-as.html

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