Category: Pakistan

  • Pakistanis Want Islamisation Of Society,and Readers Comments.

    Considering the timing of the release of the data one might be excused in surmising that this could be a planted story to provide an alibi for the US to invade Pakistan.

    You may use the  Link for details in pdf format.

    http://www.gallup.com.pk/pollsshow.php?id=2011-05-31

    May 31, 2011
     
    Majority (67%) Is In Favour Of State Facilitating ‘Islamization‘ Of Society: However, 48% Say Steps Should Be Taken One By One
     
     
    According to a Gilani Research Foundation survey carried out by Gallup Pakistan, more than two third of all Pakistanis (67%) believe that government should take steps for the Islamization of the society. However, 48% say steps should be taken one by one as opposed 31% who state steps should be taken at once.In a survey, a nationally representative sample of men and women from across the country were asked the following question: “In your opinion should government take steps to ‘Islamize’ the society?” Sixty seven percent (67%) replied in affirmative where as only 13% believed that there is no need for ‘Islamization’. A significant 20% gave no response.

    As many as 67 per cent people of Pakistan want the government take steps for Islamisation, a clear indication that for whatever reasons they have lost faith in the existing system.
    According to a survey carried out by Gilani Research Foundation, 31 per cent people want the government take the required steps at once. However, 48 per cent think that the needed steps should be taken one by one. People approached for survey had been asked: “In your opinion should the government take steps to Islamise the society?” These findings clearly mean that the claims made by various elements that Pakistan should be a secular state are totally baseless and contrary to the wishes of the people.
    This is a unique kind of survey carried out by an organization (Gallup Pakistan) in a society where more than 90 per cent people are Muslims, no matter which sect they belong to. That 31 per cent people want ‘immediate’ steps for Islamisation means that they are totally disappointed with the ability of the existing system to solve their problems and want to switch over to the Islamic system, for the sake of which the country had been created in 1947.
    According to the survey, 48 per cent people are for a gradual approach. In other words, they want the government to take the required steps one by one.
    Without any iota of doubt, these people also pin their hopes on the Islamic system, but want it introduced gradually, which, ostensibly, means that no hasty step should be taken which had the potential to backfire.
    Thirteen per cent of those approached for their opinions said there was no need for Islamization. Such people could be secularists, liberals or of the minority communities.
    Twenty per cent people, according to the survey, gave no response.
    Their decision not to answer the question may mean that for them Islamization is not that important.
    Their silence could also be taken to mean that they are not concerned for what the government does, or doesn’t do, on this front.

    http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/01-Jun-2011/67pc-want-Islamisation-of-society   

    Some comments From Pakistan on this.

    I am for Islamic law … very easy to follow, and implement…

    Mee too, Or we would have been better off with Secular India if Islam was not the intension…

    Shame on the 31% of people who wanted immediate Islamization…illiterate idiots, they should learn from the ‘Pakistani’ democrats sitting in Britain/U.S…

    http://www.khilafah.com/

    I’d probably put myself in that hated 31%. Not because i dont want an iamic society in Pakistan, but because i dont trust anyone to implement it corre tly, without bias and an agenda. Do we have an institute or collection of institutes who have the means, knowlefdge and will to do such a thing? We need to take immediate steps to build the infrastructure to have islamic state. Judges who cant be bought, generals who will march our army to the gates of hell if needs be for the right reasons, lawyers trained in islamic law, awarenesss programs, teaching of literacy to aid learning of islam at least etc etc.

    This is a crude example, but how would you migrate all computer systems in an office from windows to open source platforms overnight? You wouldnt, you would make a plan to check compatibility, port data, processes, train staff, etc.

    Lets not judge the 31%. With the mullahs we have do you really blame them?..

    QUOTE (platinum786 @ Jun 1 2011, 05:32 PM) *
    Do we have an institute or collection of institutes who have the means, knowlefdge and will to do such a thing? We need to take immediate steps to build the infrastructure to have islamic state. Judges who cant be bought, generals who will march our army to the gates of hell if needs be for the right reasons, lawyers trained in islamic law, awarenesss programs, teaching of literacy to aid learning of islam at least etc etc.

    Lets not judge the 31%. With the mullahs we have do you really blame them?..

    i am with you in the 31%; for the same reason, we are the cautious ones not anti-islam

    does anyone here think the current leader of the religious party is ready to be the prime minister/president of the country
    I doubt it

    The Pakistan Army trains its best recruits to be officers; and among the secularists; the best who stay in Pakistan go to the best universities in Pakistan; get overseas degrees; and those that come back run the big companies

    In this same way; a group of top universities need to be formed; and those that have the best potential from among the religious minded people should be trained in all fields; along with co-education step by step, alongside, in islam

    these students become Scholars in the true sense of the word; experts in their fields; top notch engineers, agriculutral engineers, doctors, scientists, artists, writers, poets, journalists, basically all fields

    and these students are trained in religious instruction; in the logical incremental method of the university of timbuktu (Primary School; Secondary (High) School, University, and Gradate School; worldly knowledge and religious instruction)

    when it comes to Law; this is where these students will be key; because some will specialize and go all the way; islamic lawyers and judges, with full training in all the secular arts and sciences (just like islamic scholars during the golden age)

    and these scholars will debate, openly, for all to see (remember before asking the people, democratically, to accept or reject their vision), and they should publish their debates, allow scholars from around the world to debate, and in a way form a concenus, that is valid for all muslims

    this way they will have visibly shown Islamic law (majority of the scholars judgements) and that it is the same islam accepted all over the islamic world
    and therefore have the legitimacy to run a government (if the people wish it, after seeing what it would really be like)

    http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/index.php?s=a408b7e613a95fb1f1ce6a579aae3c99&showtopic=94086&pid=1319573&st=0&#entry1319573

    The 48 per cent people, who want a gradual approach, also pin their hopes on the Islamic system, but want it to be introduced gradually, which ostensibly means that they think any hasty steps might have the potential to backfire.

    Thirteen per cent of those approached for their opinions said that there was no need for Islamisation. Such people could be secularists, liberals or of the minority communities.

    Twenty per cent people gave no response, which may mean that Islamization is not that important for them.

    Their silence could also be taken to mean that they are not concerned for what the government does or does not do on this front.

    http://news.in.msn.com/international/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5186903&page=3

    Related:

    A group of radical clerics in Pakistan wants the country’s Supreme Court to declare certain passages in the Bible blasphemous – because they depict as flawed certain biblical characters whom Muslims regard as Islamic prophets.

    http://frstephensmuts.wordpress.com/2011/06/01/pakistani-muslims-ban-the-bible/

  • Inside Al-Qaeda and the Taliban: Beyond 9/11-Syed Saleem Shahzad.Excerpts.

    Myriad of evidence is piling up about ISI’s collusion with Al_Qaeda.

    Even Pasha would not have had access to the wealth of material found in the Book.

    But Pakistan’s propensity for ignoring what is destroying their Nation is well-known.

    It will take action ,it seems, only if the Sal himself proclaims the Truth about ISI.

    The Book , a good read, lays bare the skeletons in Pakistan’s cup board.

    A myriad of authors, journalists, academics and analysts have attempted to analyze what drives Al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders and fighters. Syed Saleem Shahzad is the only one to have gone to their strongholds and asked them. Shahzad, a Pakistani investigative reporter, has a level of access to Al-Qaeda and the Taliban that Western journalists can only dream of. He has interviewed many top-level strategists and fighters in both movements on multiple occasions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Jordan. In Inside Al-Qaeda and the Talibanhe uses first-hand accounts and his own local knowledge to build up a convincing picture of the aims and motivation of the leaders and fighters in radical Islamic movements. This is a version of the “war on terror” that has never been told. It will fascinate anyone concerned with the strategy and tactics of the most controversial Islamic movements….

    Syed Saleem Shahzad, a Pakistani investigative reporter, has a level of access to Al-Qaeda and the Taliban that Western journalists can only dream of. He has interviewed many top-level strategists and fighters in both movements on multiple occasions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Jordan. In Inside Al-Qaedaand the Taliban he uses first-hand accounts and his own local knowledge to build up a convincing and compelling picture of the aims and motivation of the leaders and fighters in radical Islamic movements.

    This is a version of the ‘war on terror’ that has never been told. It will fascinate anyone concerned with the strategy and tactics of the most controversial Islamic movements…

    “With Ilyas Kashmiri’s immense expertise on Indian operations, he stunned the Al-Qaeda leaders with the suggestion that expanding the war theatre was the only way to overcome the present impasse. He presented the suggestion of conducting such a massive operation in India as would bring India and Pakistan to war and with that all proposed operations against Al-Qaeda would be brought to a grinding halt. Al-Qaeda excitedly approved the attack-India proposal.”

    “Ilyas Kashmiri then handed over the plan to a very able former army major Haroon Ashik, who was also a former LeT commander who was still very close with the LeT chiefs Zakiur Rahman Lakhvi and Abu Hamza. Haroon knew about a plan by Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) that had been in the pipelines for several months with the official policy to drop it as it was to have been a low-profile routine proxy operation in India through LeT.”

    “The former army major, with the help of Ilyas Kashmiri’s men in India, hijacked the ISI plan and turned it into the devastating attacks that shook Mumbai onNovember 26, 2008 and brought Pakistan and India to the brink of a war (a detailed account of this is presented in the next chapters). “


    The book contains important correspondence and all other details that former Kashmiri Jihadi and former armed forces officials changed Al-Qaeda/Taliban’s strategic perception in South Asian war theatre….

    “There has never been a full picture shown before of Al-Qaeda to a western audience. Whatever was portrayed was misleading. Thus all the decisions taken after 9/11 were wrongly directed. Intelligence services around the world pre-9/11 visualized Al-Qaeda simply as a disorganized group of mercenaries, not a sophisticated organization capable of orchestrating consequential attacks on the United States . Even when the new awareness of al-Qaeda’s capabilities dawned, the organisation’s true nature and intentions were a mystery. What remains a fact, however, is that the defeat of the United States has become an obsession with Al-Qaeda’s and it prepares its game plans accordingly.

    Ideas play pivotal role in wars. But ideas alone do not provide results. A fusion of ideas and resources are necessary for success. Absence of either one can lead to failure. Al-Qaeda came into existence in late 1980s. But it took its real shape when ideas fused with resources in the middle of 1990s: with the alliance of Dr Zawahiri’s ideas and Osama bin Laden’s resources.

    Six feet three inches tall, rich, and close enough to the Saudi royal family to be counted a family member, Osama was as an ‘angry young man’. 14 years ago in his native Saudi Arabia he spoke out against the kingdom for allowing western forces to use its territory after the first Gulf War. The Bin Laden family conglomerate was influential in business and highly respected in Saudi Arabia, as well as in the world business community. Family members finally persuaded Osama to appear personally before King Fahd for a royal pardon. Many important members of the Saudi royals, including Prince Turki and Prince Abdullah, tried their best to settle the dispute. But it was all to no avail.

    That was the beginning of the false impression presented about bin Laden and his supporters. US intelligence agencies reported him as a Saudi dissident who had fought bravely in Afghanistan against the Soviets in the 1980s, but who was no more than a political nuisance in Saudi Arabia . In fact, Osama Bin Laden had become anti-American to the core – and anti Saudi monarchy soon after they invited the Americans troops in the first Gulf War. But he did not have an ideology nor a strategy. Most political analysts believed his initial sloganeering against America would not amount to anything. And, had he not been met up with Al-Zawahiri in 1997 it may not have. But Dr Ayman Al-Zawahiri indoctrinated Osama Bin Laden’s with the idea of armed opposition to America and gave such a spin to it that Bin Laden’s uncertain security threat for America turned into a deadly reality.”

    What is Al-Qaeda upto without Bin Laden?…

    “The next step was ideological fusion: to spawn Al-Qaeda’s ideological genes in Ibnul Balad (Sons of the Soil) transforming them into `Blood Brothers’. The whole of the future war was to be fought by the Ibnul Balad from which Al-Qaeda aimed to produce a new generation of Dr Ayman Al-Zawahiris, with each and every segment of their lives committed to a life-long struggle. They were to live for the movement and die for it. But before they died they were to leave another generation behind to continue the war against America . This was Al-Qaeda’s arsenal.”..

    So far A-Qaeda has introduced a few leaders for example  Ilyas Kashmiri and his highly sophesticated guerrilla 313 Brigade who espoused the global Jihad.

    Born in Bimbur (old Mirpur) in the Samhani Valley of Pakistan-administered Kashmir on February 10, 1964, Ilyas passed the first year of a mass communication degree at Allama Iqbal Open University, Islamabad. He did not continue due to his heavy involvement in jihadi activities.

    The Kashmir Freedom Movement was his first exposure in the field of militancy, then the Harkat-ul Jihad-i-Islami (HUJI) and ultimately his legendary 313 Brigade. This grew into the most powerful group in South Asia and its network is strongly knitted in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kashmir, India, Nepal and Bangladesh. According to some CIA dispatches, the footprints of 313 Brigade are now in Europe and capable of the type of attack that saw a handful of militants terrorize the Indian city of Mumbai last November.

    Little is documented of Ilyas’ life, and what has been reported is often contradictory. However, he is invariably described, certainly by world intelligence agencies, as the most effective, dangerous and successful guerrilla leader in the world.

    He left the Kashmir region in 2005 after his second release from detention by Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and headed for North Waziristan. He had previously been arrested by Indian forces, but he broke out of jail and escaped. He was then detained by the ISI as the suspected mastermind of an attack on then-president Pervez Musharraf, in 2003, but was cleared and released. The ISI then picked Ilyas up again in 2005 after he refused to close down his operations in Kashmir.

    His relocation to the troubled border areas sent a chill down spines in Washington as they realized that with his vast experience, he could turn unsophisticated battle patterns in Afghanistan into audacious modern guerrilla warfare.

    Ilyas’ track record spoke for itself. In 1994, he launched the al-Hadid operation in the Indian capital, New Delhi, to get some of his jihadi comrades released. His group of 25 people included Sheikh Omar Saeed (the abductor of US reporter Daniel Pearl in Karachi in 2002) as his deputy. The group abducted several foreigners, including American, Israeli and British tourists and took them to Ghaziabad near Delhi. They then demanded that the Indian authorities release their colleagues, but instead they attacked the hideout. Sheikh Omar was injured and arrested. (He was later released in a swap for the passengers of a hijacked Indian aircraft). Ilyas escaped unhurt. On February 25, 2000, the Indian army killed 14 civilians in Lonjot village in Pakistan-administered Kashmir after commandos had crossed the Line of Control (LoC) that separates the two Kashmirs. They returned to the Indian side with abducted Pakistani girls, and threw the severed heads of three of them at Pakistani soldiers.

    The very next day, Ilyas conducted a guerilla operation against the Indian army in Nakyal sector after crossing the LoC with 25 fighters of 313 Brigade. They kidnapped an Indian army officer who was later beheaded – his head was paraded in the bazaars of Kotli back in Pakistani territory.

    However, the most significant operation of Ilyas was in Aknor cantonment in Indian-administered Kashmir against the Indian armed forces following the massacre of Muslims in the Indian city of Gujarat in 2002. In cleverly planned attacks involving 313 Brigade divided into two groups, Indian generals, brigadiers and other senior officials were lured to the scene of the first attack. Two generals were injured (the Pakistan army could not injure a single Indian general in three wars) and several brigadiers and colonels were killed. This was one of the most telling setbacks for India in the long-running Kashmiri insurgency….

    http://www.syedsaleemshahzad.com/

  • We Stole Nuclear Technology-A.Q.Khan,Pakistan.

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    A nice drama was enacted when the world accused Pakistan of going Nuclear on the sly.

    Instances were quoted where Pakistani Scientists working in Geneva stole information from there and in some case were arrested.

    Pakistan was ,as usual , in the denial mode.

    Unable to withstand the pressure, A.Q.Khan was placed under the so-called ‘house arrest’

    Initially Khan had also denied about the Nuclear capability of Pakistan.

    Now look at his statement.

    He admits that they have attained nuclear status ‘within a record time’

    Within the time frame he mentions it is not possible to  achieve the feat without stealing technology.

    Note that he had come to Pakistan with’ rich experience’-read stolen technology.

    After 15 years in Europe with invaluable experience in enrichment technology, I came to Pakistan in December 1975 and was given the task of producing nuclear weapons by then–prime minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. On Dec. 10, 1984, I informed Gen. Zia-ul-Haq that we could explode a device at a week’s notice, whenever he so desired. We achieved credible nuclear capacity by the second half of the ’80s, and the delivery system was perfected in the early ’90s. For a country that couldn’t produce bicycle chains to have become a nuclear and missile power within a short span—and in the teeth of Western opposition—was quite a feat…..

    Don’t overlook the fact that no nuclear-capable country has been subjected to aggression or occupied, or had its borders redrawn. Had Iraq and Libya been nuclear powers, they wouldn’t have been destroyed in the way we have seen recently. If we had had nuclear capability before 1971, we would not have lost half of our country—present-day Bangladesh—after disgraceful defeat.

    There is a total misconception about the money spent on our nuclear program. When we started, our budget was just $10 million per year, increasing to $20 million per year when at full capacity, including all salaries, transport, medical care, housing, utilities, and purchases of technical equipment and materials. This is but half the cost of a modern fighter aircraft. The propaganda about spending exorbitant sums on the nuclear program circulated by ignorant, often foreign-paid, Pakistanis has no substance….

    http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/15/pakistan-s-a-q-khan-my-nuclear-manifesto.html

  • Pakistan-‘An Army in Search of A Country’-Wiki Leaks.

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    Look at Pakistan‘s turbulent  history from Ayub Khan.

    A nation formed on the very mistaken notion of Religion, that too because its founder could not the spoils of Power in India is being tossed from Dictatorships to Dictatorships, with Civilian Government being thrown in the middle as a garnish to ensure that Pakistan gets Foreign aid.

    The moment the Dictator finds the going rough in the country, the time-tested recipe is going to war with India and loss of face and in a case loss of portions of the country as well.

    The tailor-made solution then is to usher in a puppet Regime , which,when found to breaking g the reins of the Army,is dethroned and another military Regime is on.

    Foreign powers are game to this for it is to their advantage to have an unstable Pakistan,considering its strategic location and their desire to check mate China by playing India against Pakistan /Pakistan vs India.

    Unfortunately for them India happens to be a Democracy and India plays the Foreign powers game adeptly by pitting one against another.

    This Pakistan  is unable to do because of its internal contradictions and fundamentalism and general lawless in governance.

    No surprises Pakistan’s friends and foes alike deride Pakistan in private.

    Samples.

    Pakistan remains “an army in search of a country,” according to French President Nicolas Sarkozy’s Diplomatic Adviser. ..

    Levitte also asserted that “the Pakistani army is well regarded by the Pakistani people when not in power, but that it fails when in power.”..

    Day also inquired about US perspective on Nawaz Sharif “whom he described as ‘potentially less venal’ than other Pakistani leaders.” Previously published cables have already revealed what opinion Abu Dhabi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed and Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz held of President Zardari and Mr. Sharif…..

    Director General, Defence and Intelligence of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office of the British government expresses satisfaction that China had “dumped” Pakistan in the Conference on Disarmament which in her opinion was a “good sign.”….

    a senior Saudi intelligence official is quoted as telling a US official that “the SAG [Saudi Arabian government] viewed the Afghan Taliban as largely under the control of Pakistan” and that “the Afghan Taliban needed support to be able to become more independent of Pakistan.”…

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/28/what-friends-say-about-pakistan-in-private.html

  • Should US continue Aid to Pakistan?

    Post Osama bin Laden‘s death, the question of US aid has come under scrutiny.

    Aid to Pakistan has been/is being diverted to ISI,terrorist groups and other Fundamentalist Groups of Islam.

     “U.S.financial assistance to Pakistan should continue, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said here today.

    “I think we have to proceed with some caution. We do have significant interests in Pakistan,” Gates told reporters during a briefing that he and Navy Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, held today at the Pentagon. “I think my own view would be [that] … we need to continue the assistance that we have provided that benefits the Pakistani people.”

    http://waronterrornews.typepad.com/home/2011/05/pakistan-defsec-gates-says-us-funding-should-continue.html

    That the funds have been used by the ISI to fund Al-Qaeda and other terrorist out fits can not be wished away.

    In addition we have Saudi Arabia pumping in Petro-Dollars to Madrassas  to recruit and train terrorists.

    CHENNAI: Four months before she was dismissed as Prime Minister of Pakistan for a second time, Benazir Bhutto spoke to U.S. officials about the existence of training camps that could be spawning terrorism, as well as an orchestrated plot to overthrow her.
    A diplomatic cable ( 833: secret) dated July 14 1996, accessed by The Hindu through WikiLeaks, records a conversation that Benazir had with American businessman and diplomat Frank Wisner and U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan Thomas W. Simons Jr. It cites Benazir’s concern about “picking up disturbing intelligence of the existence of religious madrassas and other institutions, including youth training camps which could be spawning terrorism.”

    Dawood Ibrahim ,Interpol notified criminal and a terrorist himself is funding terrorism in Pakistan.

    Following is the analysis of Dawood Ibrahim by the ISI .

    7. A press release of the US Department said: “Dawood Ibrahim, an Indian crime lord, has found common cause with Al Qaida, sharing his smuggling routes with the terror syndicate and funding attacks by Islamic extremists aimed at destabilizing the Indian government. He is wanted in India for the 1993 Bombay Exchange bombings and is known to have financed the activities of Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (Army of the Righteous), a group designated by the United States in October 2001 and banned by the Pakistani Government — who also froze their assets — in January 2002. “

    http://isianalysis.blogspot.com/2009/04/dawood-ibrahim-gang-16-9-2006.html

    The Funds intended to fight terrorism are not being used for that purpose and in fact are utilized to spawn and nurture terrorism.

    Under the circumstances it is not wise  for the US to continue aid to Pakistan.

    The very fact that US funds Pakistan drives more Pakistanis into terrorist fold.

    By accepting money, majority in Pakistan feel that their Sovereignty is compromised.

    Related:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13549529?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter