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  • Rig Yajur Sama Atharva Vedas Personified Images

     

    The scriptures of the Hindus, the Vedas, four in number, are the highest truths revealed to the seers.

    The refrain of the Vedas is self-realization.

    The core of the Vedas do not advocate Idol worship but a Higher Reality, Brahman , whose attributes are Being, Consciousness and Bliss-Sat, Chit and Ananda.

    However idol worship is allowed to concentrate the mind.

    The Four Vedas are.

    Rig Veda- consisting of Hymns.

    Yajur Veda, dealing with duties.

    Sama Veda, essentially the Rig Veda set to Tones.

    Atharva Veda, dealing with practical life, including Black Magic.

    Please read my posts on the Vedas and god with and without form.

    I have searched the images of the Vedas personified.

    I could not find them.

    I found them in Subrahmanya Samajam, Nallakunta, Hyderabad, where I had been to attend a function.

    Here they are.

     

     

     

     

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    The Yajur Veda personified
    The Yajur Veda Personified.

     

    Hindu scripture sama veda personified.
    Hindu scripture Sama veda personified.
    Hindu scripture Atharva veda personified.
    Hindu scripture Atharva veda personified.

  • Bhrigu From Greece Greek Priests in Rig Veda?

    When people talk of the spread of Sanatana Dharma one is struck by the fact that the Sanatana Dharma was present throughout the world.

    Please read my posts on each Country, Civilization  and its Link to Hinduism Sanatna Dharma.Sanskrit/Tamil.

    Shiva and Dionysus.jpg. Shiva and Dionysus.

    And when one reads the origins of the European and other counties in all the continents we have now, we find that people seem to have just come there from Asia, which incidentally coincides with the great Flood reported in India then called Bharatavarsha and mingled with the people already present there..

    In that case where had these  people who had been residing there, from?

    After all one should have either been in one place or have come from somewhere.

    ( In this sense, all of us are immigrants from somewhere!)

    This is anomaly I have faced when I research into Human migration and read it along with the Sanatana Dharma.

    The only plausible is explanation is that the land mass was different in ancient times and there was one huge landmass which was peopled by one group.

    Please read my Post on Shiva Uma Marriage.

    This group, based on the available evidence is the people from India then called Bharatavarsha.

    The entire landmass was following Sanatana Dharma and there were frequent interactions and occasional  migration from one part of the landmass from another.

    This is the only explanation for the presence of all notable figures of the other Cultures(other than Sanatana Dharma) being found in Hindu texts, ranging from The Vedas, Puranas, Ithihasas and Tamil.

    In one form or the other, names from the history of India are found in these cultures and references and names from those cultures in India.

    Not merely names, archeological sites, language. Customs and culture buttress this view.

    Kindly read my posts on these.

    One more connection of Sanatana  to Greece has been found in the relationship of Dionysus and Shiva.

    Dionysus may be Shiva Himself because He migrated to the West during the great flood while Vaivaswataha Manu, ancestor of Lord Rama moved to Ayodhya.

    Dionysus is found in the Atharva Veda.

    Bhrigu and others are also found in Greece.

    ‘by the pre-historic times the devotees Dionysus’s  used to travel to India since it was a pilgrimage for them. The  priesthood genes got developed into various tribes. So there are the Bhrigu (Bhryges), the Avanti (Avantes), the Kurus (Kuris), the Panchas(Panchaioi) theKoshas (Koes), the Sindhu (Sindu). They originate from different parts of Greece’

    The Kurus and the Panchas originate from Crete and might be the oldest ones. The Avanti from Evoia. A part of them joined with A part of Kuris and created the priesthood Korivantes, who ruled Asia Minor. Bhriges, Koshas and Sindu were from Thrace, an area that covered this time all North Greece. A part of Bhriges moved to Anatolia and a part of Sindu to south cost of black sea. Bhrigu in ancient Greek means “to burn” and it is referred to the sacrificial ritual. Sindu in Thracian dialect means river. So is it possible the oldest name of Indus river deriving from them? Even nowadays in North Greece there is the municipality of Sindos. Most of the western researchers either don’t understand or they don’t want to accept the common roots of those cultures. But as I heard in Harvard they teach that the Sanskrit Soma has common etymological root with Greek saima that means originally the holly blood of the sacrificed God. Saimon was a holy mountain of Dionysus in Thrace, meaning blood..

    Vassiliki States that  the Greek priests moved to Indus valley in prehistoric times (Before Rig Veda). Their names are found in Vedic texts and in ancient Greek Mythology

    There is another possibility. In Rig Veda 7,18,16, it is written that half of humanity ignores Indra, that means that half of humanity the time of Rig Veda was worshiping Indra. Indra means the “Archetypal man“, existing in Ancient Greek as Andra or Andreus with the same meaning. It was epithet of Dionysus and ofDias. Andrineia was a Dionysus’s festival. Some ancient Greek text (been in Batican) says that there were eight Dionysi in ancient times. One of them was the God (non incarnated) and the others were sages. In between them there was an Indian one, who was supposed to be the oldest. In this case, we can make the hypothesis that this cult was given as a revelation to many parts of the earth, carrying a common theological language. But even if the Indian Dionysus originates from Greece, obviously he selected Indus valley as his pilgrimage because it had already a spiritual background.

    Soma means blood and it was the red sweet wine, they were drinking in his sacraments. A traditional kind of wine in Eastern islands of Greece is called Souma and derives from the ancient sacraments. In prehistoric Greek blood is called saima. In ancient Sanskrit Soma is existing also as sauma and souma. It symbolizes the blood of the sacrificed Dionysus or Purusha (Grk: Proseios= rising sun).

    My observation is that the was no Greece as we know it to-day but it was ( as all the other countries)a part of Sanatana Dharma.

    https://sites.google.com/site/greekinfluenceonindia/rig-veda-and-it-s-origin

  • Tamil Chola Sibi Ruled From Pakistan?

    The affinity of Sanskrit, Tamil Culture with Sanatana Dharma is very close.

    The Tamil kings are referred to in the Vedas, Puranas, Ramayana and Mahabharata.

    They predate even Lord Rama.

    Tamil ings were present during the Swayamvar of Sita,

    They were present during the Swayamvar of Nala and Damayanthi.

    Nala was the ancestor of Lord Rama and legends have it that Nala visited Thirunaru, Pondicherry, to be relived of Shani(Saturn’s) effect.

    Though there are many  anecdotes of Tamil Kings, who trace their lineage to Solar Dynasty, two stand out.

    One is Manu Needhi Chola,means, one who effectively enforced the rules elaborated by Manu.

    He ran his son over by his chariot,(he was riding it) because a Cow complained to him by ringing the Bell he installed to hear people’s grievances and informed him that his son ran over its calf.

    Manuneedhi Chola atoned it by running his chariot over his son!

    The episode is found in the Hitti Civilization-they were the forerunners of the Anatolian Civilization.

    Another is Emperor Sibi.

    Chakravarthy Sibi is mentioned in the Rig Veda, Ramayana and Mahabharata , apart from references in the eighteen Puranas.

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    Thereafter, the king when recovered from loss of consciousness and again returned to his breath, called that charioteer for the purpose of getting the report on Rama. Then, Sumantra, who joined his palms in reverence, approached the monarch who was repenting about Rama alone, filled with pain and sorrow, advanced in age, greatly anguished, sighing like a newly caught elephant and reflecting on something as a sick elephant.

     The king, having great distress, spoke to Sumantra, whose body was covered with dust, his face filled with tears, who was miserable and who approached near him (as follows):” Oh, Sumantra! Where can Rama the virtuous man abide, taking refuge at the root of a tree? What that Rama, who enjoyed very many pleasantries, can eat now? Oh, Sumantra! How can Rama the prince, who was habituated to good beds, sleep with such discomfort on a floor like an orphan? Footsoldiers, Chariots and elephants used to follow whenever Rama was marching ahead. How such a man can take shelter and stay in a forest devoid of people? How Seetha Rama and Lakshmana entered forest filled with wild animals and black snakes? How those princes with Seetha the delicate and the poor lady went on foot, after descending from the chariot? You have seen my sons entering the forest, as though divinities of Aswini had entered the Mountain-range of Mandara. You are indeed lucky. After reaching the forest, what words did Rama speak? What did Lakshmana speak? What did Seetha speak?  Tell me where Rama sat, slept and took food. By hearing these things, I shall survive, as Yayati survived in the company of saints.”

    Comment: King Yayati, when doomed to fall from heaven requested Indra to cast his lot with saints. He was accordingly sent down to a spot on the earth, where four ascetics- Astaka Pratardana, Vasuman and parva King Sibi had been practicing austerities, and had discourse with them- Mahabharata, Adi Parva.

    Ayodhya Kanda, Ramayana, Sarga 58

    Sibi was son of King Usinara and queen Madhavi. He was a righteous king. Indra and Agni wanted to test his integrity and so they took the form of birds hawk and dove. The hawk chased the dove and it sought protection from Sibi. Sibi was ready to give the hawk anything except the dove. But the hawk (Indra) was so adamant demanded either the dove or equal measure of meat from the king. When the king cut his flesh and placed it on one pan and the dove on the other pan, it was never equal. The king himself mounted the balance to give himself for the sake of the dove. But Indra and Agni revealed themselves and blessed him. There is another story of Sibi’s eye donation in the Buddhist Jataka.

    This story is sung by several poets and they are in Purananuru verses 37, 39, 43 46 and 228. Sibi’s wards were called Saibya in Sanskrit. Sangam Tamil poets Tamilized this word and called the Chozas Sembian. This word is in other Sangam books Aka Nanuru (36) and Natrinai (14)…

    King Sibi weighing his Thigh Flesh.Sculpture, Borobudur King Sibi weighing his Thigh Flesh.

    The story of Sibi Chakravarthy is so famous that it was sculpted in the Barhut, Nagarjunakonda ,Amaravati bas-reliefs and  Borobudur in Java,Indonesia (see Boropudur sculpture above).

    Tamil epics Silappadikaram and Manimekalai gave more details about this link. Since the oldest part of Sangam Tamil literature mentions it no one can reject it. The link is confirmed with other stories as well.

    Sibi ruled from the north west of India. There was a Sibi puram on the banks of river Chenab in Punjab. Sibi clan is mentioned in Rig Veda and Brahmanas. Panini referred one Sivapuram may be the same Sibipuram’

    Sibi is in Nort west of India, currently in Pakistan.

    There are views that Sibi ruled from there and that the Tamils were from North India.

    Considering the differences between the Tamil Culture and Sanatana Dharma, thought Tamils were a part of Sanatana Dharma and the archeological evidence,Literature, the structural difference between Sanskrit , I am of the opinion that it is not so.

    In the case of Sibi. it is probable that Sibi had the city of Sibi as a second capital.

    Sibi (Balochi: بلوچ ) (Urdu: سِبی‎) is a city of Balochistan province of Pakistan. The city is located at 29°33’0N 67°52’60E at an altitude of 130 metres (429 feet)[1] and is headquarters of the district and tehsil of the same name.[2] According to the 2001 census of Pakistan, the population of Sibi is 52,100..

    Citation.

    http://tamilandvedas.com/2013/07/15/sibi-story-in-old-tamil-literature/

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  • Krishna Abandoned His Army Narayana Sena?

    The questions the younger generation asks of about Hinduism are very intelligent and thought-provoking.

    They do not accept anything at face value.They ask questions that are very pertinent and if we answer them, they are motivated to study Hinduism.

    Vishnu,Brahma,Rama, Shiva, Krishna.Image.jpg
    Vishnu,Brahma,Rama, Shiva, Krishna.

    Asking them to follow Hinduism, because it ought to be followed puts them off.

    As I have been mentioning in many of posts that my  desire is to explain Hinduism, to the extent I know, in simple terms and many youngsters have been on to me over phone, email with questions.

    Recently I had this question.

    In The Mahabharata, Duryodhana chose the army of Lord Krishna, the Narayana Sena, instead of  the unarmed Krishna for the Mahabharata Battle.

    Krishna acceded the request and was with the Pandavas during the Mahabharata Battle.

    The question is,

    Did not Krishna abandon His army and desert them?

    Why did He do so?

    Was He not responsible for the deaths of his army personnel?

    For no fault of their own?

    Where is Krishna’s Dharma?

    When we study the Avatars of Rama and Krishna we may notice that while Lord Krishna was aware of the fact that he was the incarnation of Lord Vishnu at all times, Rama did not have any idea that he was , save the occasion when the Sakthi Ayudha od Ravana, granted to him, neared Rama’s Chest.

    He remembered He was Lord Vishnu,chanted the Pranava, OM and the Sakthi Syudha, which never fails, was shattered.

    Even this instance Rama for got immediately.

    And Rama had this feeling of Aham.

    That is He identified Himself as human Being and went through the gamut of emotions and sufferings that are unique to Humans.

    He was attached To Dasaratha, Brothers, Sita,Hanuman and considered Ravana as enemy as a Human would!

    But Krishna had no-no such attributes.

    In fact it does not mater to him personally by way of gains whether Duryodhan won or Pandavas succeed.

    Both were his cousins.

    Yet he chose the Panadavas, though army wise they were weaker.

    Why ?

    Because it was to protect Dharma .

    He never had any personal feelings or score to settle with any one though they have wronged Him.

    He killed them because they had to be killed to protect Dharma.

    Sisupala was Krishna’s nephew and Krishna promised his mother that He could bear with 100 insults but would bear no more.

    At the Rajasuya Yaga of Yudhistra,at the time of performing the Akrora Pooja, paying the first respect in an assembly,when Krishna was chosen for the honor, Sisupala started abusing Krishna in the vilest terms.

    Krishna was listening tho all of them with a smile.

    Bhima asked Krishna as to why Krishna was tolerating  Sisupala instead of killing hi, Krishna replied that He has promised Sisupala’s mother that he (Krishna) would bear 100 insults.

    Bhima asked what if Sisupla were to stop one short of 100 insults.

    Krishna replied that it is Destiny that Sisupala would complete 100 and be killed by Him.

    Such is the detachment and performance of duty as a Karma Yogi by Krishna.

    When Krishna’s son was cursed by the Rishis and they came to Krishna requesting His forbearance Krishna replied that there was nothing wrong in their curse as his son deserved it!

    Or when the Hunter who slew Krishna by an arrow, prostrated before Krishna and asked for His mercy, Krishna replied that He was being killed by the hunter for His  killing of Vaali hiding behind a tree and he blessed the Hunter!

    Rama was elevating Himself as Divine, without Knowing He was Divinity, Krishna was Divinity posing as a Human.

    The purpose of Krishna Avatar is to reduce the burden of the earth and restore Dharma.

    Nothing more.

    So he had no personal attachment to any one including his army.

    It may also be noted that Krishna had never been a King , but only a Prince because of a Curse to Vrishnis.

    Balaram was the King.

    Interesting to note that Balarama was av Avatar of Adi Sesha as Lakshmana was in the Treta Yuga.

    Rama vowed to serve Lakshmana in the next Avatar to Lakshmana for the devotion he exhibited to Rama nd Sita,

    This He repaid in the  Krishna Avatara when he took a back seat and carried out Balarama’s orders.

    All the machinations Krishna indulged in th Mahabharata were when Balarama was conveniently absented at Krishna’s request!

    But Balarama never knew until Krishna’s job was done.

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  • Chaurasia Brahmins 84 Or 84,000 Families

    In Hindu system of community classification of ancient times,the communities were grouped together based on the their location,number of families in a group,the chosen profession ,or the deeds done by them.

    Pandit Hariprasad Chaurasia.Image.jpg
    Pandit Hariprasad Chaurasia.

    Also if some groups performed some specific Yagnyas, among Brahmins, they were designated as such, for example, Vajpayee, those who have preformed and specialists in performing the Vajapeya Yaga.

    Among the Brahmins in the South, there are Asta Sahasram, (Eight Thousand families), Vadama(those who lived on the north bank of River Kaveri), Vaathima, who speialised in Purohitham.

    In the North we have many communities of Brahmins on similar lines.

    The Chaurasia Community is one which is based on the number of families belonging to this clan.

    They are reported to be 84,000 in number.

    HAURASIA word originated from ancient INDIAN Vedas which basically refers a Brahmin community in INDIA, CHAURASIA word inherits from a vedic word ‘chaturashiitah’ which refers eighty four in sansakrita . Since ancient INDIA, according to the Hindu mythology it is believed there are eighty four thousands Yonis(breeds, Types) of Gods existing in this universe. Every species which exist on Earth belong to a particular Yoni . At later stage and for easy pronunciation it transformed as ‘Chaurasia’ (A Hindi equivalent also refers eighty four).

    • Yoni is a term for female Genital Organ in Sanskrit.

    The Puranas state that, while describing the evolution of beings on the Earth, there are 84 Lakhs different Yonis and their derivatives among the Humans.(Yoni Beda)

    Hence I am of the opinion  that 84,000 families of Chaurasias may be off the mark, considering the limited Brahmin families in ancient India(this is so even today)

    This could be 84 or at the most 8000.

    Readers may send in their views.

    Chaurasia community belongs to the following Gotras

    • Kashyapa
    • Bharadwaj
    • Shandilya
    • Rishi
    • Brahmachari
    • Gaurhar
    • Chaurasia
    • Sharma
    • Barai
    • Tamoli
    • Bhatia
    • Bhagat
    • Chaurishi
    • Chaudhari
    • Modi
    • Rasela
    • Rajdheer

    Sub castes

    Following are the synonyms of Chaurasia surname by regional preferences:

    • Chaurasia (Belarampur, patti, pratapgarh) (U.P.)and Nepal.
    • Chaurasia (Throughout India)
    • Chourasia (Parts of North East India)
    • Chaurishi (Parts of North India)
    • Chaurasiya ( In Terai area of Nepal)
    • Sharma (Throughout India)
    • Jaiswal (North India)and Nepal too.
    • Bhardwaj (Throughout India)
    • Kashyap (North India)
    • Nag (North/East India)
    • Bhagat (North/east India) & in Nepal too.
    • Bari (Central/western India)
    • Barai (West Bihar/East UP)& in Nepal too.
    • Tamoli (West Bihar/East UP)
    • Rishi (Central India)
    • Brahmachari(North India)
    • Gaurhar (North India)
    • Modi (North India)
    • Raut (Bihar Madhubani)and Nepal too
    • Rai (Bihar Madhubani)
    • Munshi (Dhanbad Jharkhand)
    • Rasela (Central India)
    • Tiwari (Bihar Begusarai area)

    Reference and Citation.

    https://m.facebook.com/notes/chaurasia-brahmin/a-to-z-of-chaurasias-complete-history/225156294165011/

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