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  • Krishna Died Age 89 ? 18 February 3102 Verified

    Krishna Died Age 89 ? 18 February 3102 Verified

    Hinduism does not deal in Fiction.

    It states facts, however improbable it might seem to us.

    While we are not competent to say what is probable or possible in the scheme of things in the Universe,what we can do is to ascertain verifiable facts mentioned in the Puranas and Ithihasa, Epics of Hinduism.

    I, after reasonable research , am convinced of the veracity of the verifiable facts in these Texts, with available knowledge we possess, and the technology we have now.

    Lord Krishna as a child.Image.jpg
    Krishna as a child

    Hence I treat the Puranas and Ithihasas as facts as I would a modern-day scientific paper.

    While the modern-day scientific papers keep changing,for clarity, the facts mentioned in these texts have stood the test of Time, right from the Rig Vedic Period, currently dated at 5000 BC.

    Some times , while sticks to this view, one comes across some seemingly contradictory facts .

    For example the death of Lord Rama preceded the Death of Lord Krishna by a mere 200 years, while according to Puranas these two events were separated by thousands of Years.

    By diligently following the Hindu Texts one can solve these riddles.

    Please read my post on Rama’s death precedes Krishna by 200 Years.

    Now at what did Lord Krishna shed His mortal coil?

    The Bhagavata Purana verse 11.6.25 says that Krishna lived for 125 years on earth. The first verse of Mausal Parva, Mahabharata says that Yudhisthira saw bad omens (because of Krishna’s departure from the earth) after 36 years of ruling after they won the Kurukshetra war. So that means Krishna was about 89 years old at the time of war.
    This corroborates with the view that the age of Kali-yuga started in 3102 BCE, according to Dr. Achar. As stated in the Puranas, Kali-yuga had already begun, but its full influence was held back because of the presence of Lord Krishna. Then when Lord Krishna departed from this world, which is said to have occurred 35 years after the war of Kurukshetra in 3067, making it the year of 3032 BCE, then Kali-yuga began to show more of its effects.

    According to Puranic sources,Krishna’s disappearance marks the end of Dvapara Yuga and the start of Kali Yuga, which is dated to February 17/18, 3102 BCE.

    Astronomically simulated Eclipses and Greek Records place the year at 3031 BC

    The Greek records go on to record that Heracles (Krishna) lived 138 generations before the time of Alexander and Sandrocottas, which was about 330 BCE. This then calculates, based on about 20 years per generation, to roughly 3090 BCE, which is about the right time considering 3102 BCE is the date when Kali-yuga began. Thus, Lord Krishna was a genuinely historical figure who lived about the time of 3200-3100 BCE, having lived to 125 years of age. “According to the epic Mahabharata, Krishna first appears [in the epic] at the time of Draupadi’s wedding, and His departure is exactly 36 years after the war. No information about His birth is available in the epic itself, although there is information about His departure. Krishna observes omens (Mahabharata 14.3.17), similar to the ones seen at the time of the war, now indicating the total destruction of the Yadavas. [Astrological] Simulations show that in the year 3031 BCE, thirty-six years later than 3067 BCE, there was an eclipse season with three eclipses. A lunar eclipse on 20 October was followed by an annular solar eclipse on 5 November, followed by a penumbral lunar eclipse on 19 November, within an interval of 14 days and at an aparvani time. Thus the date of departure of Lord Krishna is consistent with the popular tradition that He passed away 36 years after the war. The information about His birth can be gathered from the Harivamsha and the Bhagavata Purana…. It should be understood, however, that the date of His departure from this world is established on the information in the epic and on the basis of [astronomical] simulations, and it turns out to be 3031 BCE’

    Refernces.

    Matchett, Freda, “The Puranas”, p 139 and Yano, Michio, “Calendar, astrology and astronomy” in Flood, Gavin (Ed) (2003). Blackwell companion to Hinduism. Blackwell Publishing. ISBN 0-631-21535-2.

    http://www.dandavats.com/?p=13686

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna

    * Counter claims to this date shall be discussed in another Post.

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  • Mahabharata Events Verified Timeline Some Issues

    I have posted the Ramayana Timeline verified by astronomical data.

     

    Lord Krishna and Lord Rama.jpg
    Lord Krishna and Lord Rama.

     

    To corroborate that further I shall be posting articles with Archelogical, Zoological evidence apart from references from Indian and Foreign literature.

     

    After I posted on Ramayana Dateline, I have been asked to write on Mahabharata on similar lines.

     

    This is a minefield.

     

    One has to be remember that Ramayana had taken place in Treta Yuga while the Mahabharata took place in the Dwapara Yuga.

     

    Treta Yuga lasted for 1,296,000 years and the duration of the Dvāpara-yuga is  864,000 years.

     

    Mahabharata War took place towards the close of the Dwapara Yuga.

     

    That is to say that the Ramayana and Mahabharata were separated by a minimum of 21,59000 Years.

     

    Ramayana Events Dateline.

     

    Rama’s Birth Date 4th December 7323 B.C

    Rama-Seeta Marriage 7th April 7307 B.C

    Rama Exiled 29th November 7306

    B.C.Hanuman enters Lanka 1st September 7292 B.C

    Hanuman meets Seeta 2nd September 7292 B.C.

    Sethu (Bridge) built 26-30th Oct. 7292 B.C

    The War begins 3rd November 7292 B.C

    Kumbhakarna is killed 7th November 7292 B.C.

    Ravana is killed by Rama 15th November 7292 B.C.Rama returns to Ayodhya

    6th December 7292 B.C.(Vartak,P.V. 1999)”

     

    Now The Mahabharta Events Timeline.

     

    Hereunder is provided a short table dates of important Mahabharat events in years. (Dates and Tithis in years in Rama Samvat assuming Shri Rama Samvat 1st January. 1 equivalent to 1st Jan 7323 B.C. Rama’s birth date has been conclusively proved to be 4th Dec. 7323 B.C.( “Vastav Ramayan“).

    EVENT                                      DATE       
                                      

Going to forest                       4th Sept. 5574 BC

Kitmeet Killed                        7th Sept. 5574 BC

Going underground                     19th May 5562  BC

Keechak killed                        1st April 5561 BC

Anukeechak-Massacre                   2nd April 5561 BC

End of secret life                    9th April 5561 BC

Cows stolen                           15th April 5561 BC

Arjuna exposed                        16th April 5561 BC

All pandavas exposed                  19th April 5561 BC

Marriage of Uttara                    4th May. 
& Abhimanyu.

Krishna set out for a treaty.         27th Sept.

Stay at Upaplavya                     27th Sept.

Stay at Vrukshthala                   28th Sept.

Dinner to Brahmins                    29th Sept.

Entry into Hastinapur                 30th Sept.

Krishna meets Kunti etc.              1st Oct.

Invited for meeting                   2nd Oct.

First meeting                         3rd Oct.

Second meeting and an attempt         4th Oct.   
to arrest Krishna.

Third meeting Vishvaroopa             7th Oct.

Stay at Kunti                         8th Oct.

Krishna meets Karna. War              9th Oct.
    fixed.

Krishna returns                       9th Oct.

Pandavas preparation                  11th Oct.  
Balaram's visit.

Mahabharat war started                16th Oct.

Abhimanyu killed                      28th Oct. 5561 BC.

End of War                            2nd November 5561 B.C.

Yudhishthira crowned                  16th Nov. 5551 BC.

Bhishma expired                       22nd Dec. 5561 BC

Pandava  campaign                     15th Jan. 5560 BC  
for wealth

Parikshita born                       28th Jan. 5560 BC

Pandavas return                       25th Feb. 5560 BC

Ashvamedh Deeksha.                    1st March 5560 BC

Return of Arjuna Horse                15th Jan. 5560 BC

Ashvamedh yajna                       22nd Feb. 5559 BC

Dhrutarashtra went to forest          18th Aug. 5545 BC

Pandavas visited Kunti                18th Aug. 5543 BC
Vidura expired

Death of Kunti, Dhrutarashtra,        Sept./Oct. 5541 BC 
and Gandhari

Yadava Massacre                       5525 B.C.Parikshit Dead                        5499 B.C.

    -P.V.Vartak, Swayambhu (in Marathi), Ved Vidnyana Mandal, Pune

    All the twelve planets confirm their said positions on 16th October 5561 years B.C. along with two Amavasyas, two eclipses, Kshaya Paksha and a Comet. Thus, in all 18 mathematical positions fix the same date. Therefore, we have to accept this date of the Mahabharat War, if we want to be scientific. Please note that all the twelve planets will come in the same positions again only after 2229 crores of years. That means it will never happen again in the life of our earth, because life of the earth is only 400 crores of years. So the date of the Mahabharat War is pin-pointed as 16th October 5561 B.C..

     

    The date of Ramayana  is , the last recoded event for discusssion here, is ,

     

    “Ravana is killed by Rama 15th November 7292 B.C.Rama returns to Ayodhya”

     

    For Mahabharata,

     Pandavas Going to forest                       4th Sept. 5574 BC is the earliest event taken for discussion here.



The dudifference between the last event of Ramayana and the first event of Mahabharata event is,

7292-/5574 is only 1718 years!

So the difference between the last event of Ramayana and the first Mahabharata event is 7292-/5574. is 1718 Years!

Now to confound further,

'Yet cross indexing the various Purans and the Astrological data supported by actual Astronomical phenomena like Rama‘s Birth chart,Eclipses during Ramayana andMahabharata  forces one to the conclusion that Lord Rama’s Death preceded Lord Krishna’s  only by 200 years."

This anomaly can be answered only if one follows the concept of the theory of Cyclic Theory of Time.

Even if we accept this, there is still the point of reconciling 200 years.

But again, as Time calculation depends on the position of the observer, the dates mentioned and being proved n=by us might vary because our position differs from the recorded dates of Ramayana and Mahabharata.



Citaton.
http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/ancient/mahabharat/mahab_vartak.html


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