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Day: February 6, 2015

  • Bible Family Tree In Bhavishya Purana Enoch and Others

    Judaism and Christianity seem to have borrowed heavily from Hinduism.

     

    I am providing the family Tree according to The Bible and the Text from the Bhavishya Purana.

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    Family Tree of The Bible.

    Click to Enlarge the Image.

    Bhavishya Purana Text.

    “Text: 31
    His wife Havyavati (Eve) will be very eager to see the tree of sin, and will go by the shadow of the tree. Kali (Satan) also will come there in the form of serpent.

    Text: 32
    Then they will disobey the commandment of Vishnu who told Adama (Adam) not to eat the fruit of the tree of sin. Because the fruit was good to see they eat it and become “Mleccha” and hence will turn towards the world.

    Text: 33
    They will wear the garments of fig leaves against the wind. The children of their generation will be called as “Mlecchas” because Adama (Adam) and Havya (Eve) will disobey Vishnu.

    Text: 34
    Adama (Adam) will live for 930 years.

    Text: 35
    Shveta (Seth) will be his son, of Shveta (Seth), Kenaasha (Cainan), son of Anuha.

    Text: 36
    Anuha (Enos) will be the son of Shveta (Seth), Kenaasha (Cainan), son of Anuha.

    Text: 38
    Virada (Jared) his son will live for 160 years and beget a son, and then live 900 years.

    Text: 39
    Hanucha (Enoch) son of Virada will be an ardent worshipper of Vishnu.

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    Enoch (/ˈiːnək/; Hebrew: חֲנוֹךְ, Modern H̱anokh, Tiberian Ḥănōḵ; Arabic: إدريس‎ ʼIdrīs) is a figure in Biblical literature. In addition to an appearance in the Book of Genesis of the Hebrew Bible, Enoch is the subject of many Jewish and Christian writings.

    Enoch was the son of Jared (Gen 5:19-21), the father of Methuselah, and the great-grandfather of Noah. Enoch lived 365 years before he was taken by God, which is a small amount of time compared to his offspring Methuselah, who lived to be 969 years old. The text reads that Enoch “walked with God: and he was no more; for God took him” (Gen 5:22–29). This Enoch is not to be confused with Cain’s son Enoch (Gen 4:17). The Christian New Testament has three references to Enoch from the lineage of Seth (Luke 3:37, Hebrews 11:5, Jude 1:14–15).’-Enoch 

    Text: 40
    Hanucha (Enoch) will rule for 365 years and being an ardent worshipper of Vishnu according to Mleccha Dharma, he will ascend bodily to heaven.

    Text: 43
    Matocchila (Methusela) his son will rule for 970 years.

    Text: 44
    Lomaka (Lamech) his son will rule for 777 years.

    Text: 45
    Nyuha (Noah) will be his son. He will rule for 500 years. He will beget three sons. Seema, Shama (Shem), and his brother. Nyuha will be the only beloved of Vishnu always meditating on Vishnu.

    Text: 47
    Lord Vishnu will one day appear in a dream to Nyuha (Noah) and will say:

    Text: 48
    “My son Nyuha (Noah), hear me, this world will be destroyed by flood in seven days. Therefore build thou a ship (ark) for you and your family only to be safe from Pralayam (Flood).

    Text: 49
    Prosper in this world after the flood for thou art the most righteous man on the earth”. Then the sage Nyuha (Noah) will prepare a ship.

    Text: 50
    Length of the ship 300 hand breadth, Width, 50 hand breadth, height 30 hand breadth.

    Text: 51
    Meditating on Vishnu, Nyuha (Noah) will ascend the ship along with his wife, his three sons and their wives (eight souls). The world was flooded by rain for 44 days.

    Text: 52
    The whole land of Bharata (India), Plava (Palestina) and Sindava (Punjab) will go submerged in that flood.

    Text: 54
    All will be lost except Nyuha and his family. Thus ends the 4th chapter.

    Ch.5 Text 1-3
    The Vedic Script will be lost in the floods. Only the Mleccha language will prevail. As Kali Yuga will proceed Brahmi language will prosper.

    Text: 5
    Sima (Shem), Hama (Ham) Yakuta (Japheth) will be the three children of Nyuha who will replenish the earth after the flood Yakuta will beget seven sons.

    Text: 9
    The second son Hama (Ham) will beget four sons. Kusha (Cush) Mishra (Mizraim), Kuja (Canaan) and…….

    Text: 11
    Nimaruh (Nimrod) son of Kusha will be mighty in strength and prevail.

    Text: 13
    Sima (Shem) the eldest son of Nyuha will be ruler for 500 years.

    Text: 14
    Arkansada (Arphaxed) his son rules for 430 years.

    Text: 15
    Simhla (Sela) will rule for 406 years. His son is Ivrata (Eber).

    Text: 16
    Phalaga (Peleg) his son will rule for 224 years.

    Text: 17
    Ravu (Reu) his son will rule for 237 years.

    Text: 18
    Juja (Serug) his son, Nahora (Nahor).

    Text: 19
    Tahara (Terah) will beget Avirama (Abraham), Nahura (Nahor), Harana (Haran).

    Text: 20
    They all become Mleccha by the curse of Saraswati and they will speak Mleccha language but Samskrita (Sanskrit) will be the language of Bharata Desham (India).

    Text: 22
    But these people (Mleccha) will go to another country and prosper there as Mlecchas in that country, but originally belonging to Bhara Desham.

    Text: 29
    2000 years after the prosperity of Mlecchas the whole world will be full of mixed people.

    Text: 30
    Some divine sage will stay on the shores of river Saraswathi. One great leader of Mlecchas, Moosha (Moses) wil arise.

    Text: 31
    At that time in Kali Yuga there will not be true worship of God, the true Vedic language is lost and the Mleccha language will be of four types.

    Citaion.

    Bible Family Tree in Bhavishya Purana

  • Mount Shastha, California,Thiruvannamalai’s Twin

    The Puranas state that the Americas are the Patala.

    I have a detailed post on this, including geographical evidence.

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    Bhagawan Ramana Maharishi,Thiruvannamalai

    Taking this further, what the Puranas state being underneath something in Bharatavarsha, it is reasonable to assume to find such objects in the Americas.

    Mount shastha, California,US.jpg
    Aerial photo of Mount Shasta taken while flying from en:San Jose, California to en:Portland, Oregon. “MtShasta aerial” by Ewen Denney – en. Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 via Wikimedia Commons – http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MtShasta_aerial.JPG#mediaviewer/File:MtShasta_aerial.JPG

    Mayan Civilization falls under this category and I shall be posting on this in detail.

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    Sunrise in Arunachala, Thiruvannamalai.

    Now to Mount Shastha In California,

    ““Arunachala is the most sacred holy place of all…….. The Hindu sage Ramana Maharshi said that Arunachala was the top of the spiritual axis of the earth and that there must be another mountain corresponding to it at the opposite side of the globe. I am suggesting that the other mountain is Mt. Shasta. But whether that is true or not, there is no doubt in my mind that Mt. Shasta and Mt. Arunachala are two of the major spiritual power spots of planet Earth“..”-Kenneth Grant,

    “The earlier forms – such as Saste, Shaste, Sasty, Shasty, Chasty, Shasti, Shastika – have given place to the form Shasta…. The origin and meaning of this term are obscure.”

    Referring to the the mid 1850s, Dr. R.B. Dixon says, “After persistent inquiry, the only information secured which throws any light on the matter is to the effect that about forty or fifty years ago there was an old man living in Shasta Valley whose personal name was Shastika (Stisti’ka). He is reported to have been a man of importance; and it is not impossible that the name Shasta came from this Indian (Native American), an old and well-known man…..” Could it then be that the mountain is named after this old, quite possibly learned and wise man. Maybe then he was referred to as Shastri (शास्त्री). In Sanskrit, Shastri means “the wise one or the learned one”.

    Head of the native American Shasta tribe was Sambho.

    The Shasta tribe inhabited the area close to the Klamath River. The Klamath River was known to them by the name ‘Ish-Keesh’ (ईश-कीश). In Sanskrit ‘Ish-Keesh’ (ईश-कीश) translates as ‘Lord Sun’.

    Native Americans also called Mt. Shasta ‘Uytah-Ku’ or ‘White Mountain’, possibly a corruption of ‘Shweta-Naku’ (श्वेता- नाकु) also meaning ‘White Mountain’ in Sanskrit. Another name for Mt. Shasta was ‘waika’, which is also probably a corruption of the Sanskrit ‘shweta’ (श्वेत) meaning ‘white’. In fact, the English word ‘white’ itself derives from the Sanskrit ‘shweta’. Another Sanskrit word also meaning white is ‘shuchi’ (शुचि) and could have been distorted into ‘shasta’ over time.

    “Mount Shasta (Karuk: Úytaahkoo or “White Mountain”)[5][6] is a potentially active volcano located at the southern end of theCascade Range in Siskiyou County, California. At 14,179 feet (4,322 m),[1] it is the second highest peak in the Cascades and thefifth highest in California. Mount Shasta has an estimated volume of 85 cubic miles (350 km3) which makes it the most voluminous stratovolcano in the Cascade Volcanic Arc”

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    The lore of some of the Klamath Tribes in the area held that Mount Shasta is inhabited by the Spirit of the Above-World, Skell, who descended from heaven to the mountain’s summit at the request of a Klamath chief. Skell fought with Spirit of the Below-World, Llao, who resided at Mount Mazama by throwing hot rocks and lava, probably representing the volcanic eruptions at both mountains.[21]

    Italian settlers arrived in the early 1900s to work in the mills and as stonemasons and established a strong Catholic presence in the area. Many other faiths have been attracted to Mount Shasta over the years—more than any other Cascade volcano.[citation needed] Mount Shasta City and Dunsmuir, California, small towns near Shasta’s western base, are focal points for many of these, which range from aBuddhist monastery (Shasta Abbey, founded by Houn Jiyu-Kennett in 1971) to modern-day Native American rituals. A group of Native Americans from the McCloud River area practice rituals on the mountain.[22]

    Mount Shasta has also been a focus for non-native American legends, centered on a hidden city of advanced beings from the lost continent of Lemuria.[23] The legend grew from an offhand mention of Lemuria in the 1880s, to a description of a hidden Lemurian village in 1925. In 1931, Wisar Spenle Cerve wrote Lemuria: the lost continent of the Pacific, published by the Rosicrucians, about the hidden Lemurians of Mount Shasta that cemented the legend in many readers’ minds”

    Does this Mountain have anything to do with Shastha,Lord Ayyappa?

    I am researching.

    Citation.

    Mount Shastha Twin Mountain of Arunachala, Thiruvannamalai

     

  • Homakunda Yama Temple Tanks In Peru

    The Andean civilization has its share of Hinduism.

    Peru has the Trident mark of Lord Shiva, called The Nazca Lines.

    Sugreeva directed his army to search for Sita in Peru and the directions given by him 5000 years ago tally even today.

    There is Archeological site in Peru, Vichama, which has been excavated.

    The Incas were people who migrated from Tamil Nadu.

    Read my post on this.

    It bears a striking similarity to Hinduism.

    Vichama is the Deity of Death and He is the son of Sun and he has a sister.

    In Hinduism Yama , the God of Death is the son of Surya, Sun and has a sister Yami, River Yamuna.

    “The goddess of the river, also known as Yami, is the sister of Yama, god of death, and the daughter of Surya, the Sun god, and his wife Saranyu”

    Scroll down for Video.

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    An ancient Fire Temple at El Paraiso in Lima, Peru, close to the site of the Paracas Trident was discovered in January, 2013. The Fire Temple structure is similar to the Vedic ‘Havan Kund’ and was used for Fire WorshipEl Parasio

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    Remains of the ancient temple complex of Caral-Supe, Peru.

    The ruins in Vichama resemble Homa/havan Kunda being used by the Hindus for worship;

    Temples resemble Indian Pyramid temple,

    Temple Tanks look like the ones one finds in Indian temples.

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    A pot from the Vichama site in Peru. Notice the Vedic ‘swastika’ sign. The Vedic Swastika is different from the ‘inverted’ Nazi Swastika. Asthi Kalasa?

    “The sunken circular plaza is often thought to have been an amphitheatre but a closer look reveals features that it may have been a tank, around which holy offerings were made – much like the Indian temple ‘water tanks’ or ‘jala kunda‘ (जल कुण्ड) as they are called in Sanskrit. The prominent circular tank like structure at Caral bears a remarkable resemblance to the temple jala-kundas of India.”

    Citation.

    Yama Havankund in Peru

    Related.

    https://ramanisblog.in/2015/02/01/incas-of-peru-ancestors-tamils-celebrate-makara-sankaranti/

  • Jesus ‘mentally ill suffered from paranoia’ Bible Not Historic Study

    I chanced upon this.

    I thought about skipping it.

    But the names associated with it included A. Schweitzer.

    Worth reading.

    That the Bible was concocted is a fact, that it was compiled by Emperor Constantine to suit his political ambition is true.

    As to Christ, I doubt he existed,

    Please read my post on this.

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    Dead Christ supported_by the madonna and saint John pieta

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    Even those who deny that Jesus existed – and I am one of them – must agree that whether the gospels are true or not they don’t give us any confidence in the sanity of Jesus Christ.  Even if Jesus didn’t exist the gospels could have been based on stories about eccentrics and fairly obscure prophets of the time who did exist. 

     

    If we can prove that the Jesus Christ in them was mad then that is all we need to destroy Christianity.  It would mean that the apostles he chose and the Church he founded were all very silly people indeed.  It would mean that we have to be on guard against any other religious movement because if Christianity was founded on the ravings of a madman and was such a success any other religion could have been the same.

     

    We can be sure that there is no evidence for Jesus’ sanity and plenty of evidence against it.

     

    You will see plenty of Christian books written in defence of the faith that deny that Jesus was mentally ill and claim that he was the sanest person that ever lived.

     

    It is possible that Jesus was a manic-depressive.  He said he was the light of the world (John 9:5) and the only way to God (John 14:6) and the unique Son of God (John 17).  That is the sign of severe mania.  He was unnaturally full of himself.  Even if it were true, we would expect him to let others say he was this great being instead of him trying to convince him.  If he really had the power to influence people through using the Holy Spirit he did not need to make such declarations.”

     

    The following information is worth thinking about as it throws quite a few questions about Bible and Jesus.

    ‘This study was published in Dutch as: Jezus de Messias. Was het christendom een vergissing ? Antwerpen, EPO, and as:Toen God sliep schreef de mens de Bijbel. De bijbel belicht door een psycholoog. Antwerpen, Facet.

    Summary.

    This psychopathological study of the Gospel resulted in a revolutionary view on the personality of Jesus and his life, the sources of his spirituality and ideas. The hypothesis of paraphreny was able to explain a number of otherwise unexplained events. Did Jesus survive the crucifixion ? Is the Apocalypse the first Christian document, earlier than the letters of Paul ? Was the resurrection a myth? These questions find an answer in this study.

     

    About 1910 three competent psychiatrists: Ch. Binet-Sangle, G.L.De Loosten (G. Lomer) and W. Hirsch concluded after thorough examination of the texts, that Jesus was mentally ill and suffered from paranoia. They were criticised by A. Schweitzer who alleged that from an historical point of view most texts were dubious or certainly not historic, e.g. the quotations from the Gospel of St. John, and from a medical point of view that the alleged symptoms of paranoia or another mental disease were misunderstood.
    Three objections seemed essential: first: there is no certainty about the historical truth of the texts, secondly: what seems to us like a symptom was possibly a normal trait, a cultural feature in that civilisation, thirdly: there are not enough sure elements in order to found on them a safe judgment.

    If witnesses describe in a text correctly (according to modern psychopathology) a number of elements (symptoms) and if these symptoms are coherent and can be identified with a known syndrome, while these witnesses ignored completely psychopathology and moreover intended to prove a very different interpretation of the facts (a faulty one), there can be no more doubt about the authenticity of the described facts.

    The decision consequently about the historicity of the facts will no more depend upon mere philological criteria, but also upon psychopathological ones. Schweitzer supposes incorrectly, that the philological criteria are the only ones that can decide about historicity; in fact: the psychopathological control is more efficient and safe. So the first objection of Schweitzer is eliminated.

    The second objection of Schweitzer, that symptoms may be misunderstood cultural features, is at least superficial. It is very clear that the true pathological nature of the observed symptoms is culture-independent, although they may be coloured by the cultural background. Unadapted and strange behaviour as it is seen by extraneous observers, is on account of this fact itself matched against the own cultural background of the observers, but if this background is identical with the background of the subject no cultural interference exists any more. Therefore it is important to study the reaction of the own cultural milieu of the subject…

    In the Gospel of Mark a child is described, possessed by the devil. The features, found in the text, are all coherent with the syndrome of epilepsy and especially with an infantile type: perinatal infection of the ear with inflammatory complications, causing thrombo-phlebitis in the brain with the consequence of epileptic seizures and deaf-muteness. In the text of Mark all symptoms are precisely described: the child is mute, falls in the water and the fire (loss of conscience), utters a cry and is agitated, has foam on his mouth, becomes like dead and after a while is “cured”.
    2000 years ago nobody was aware of the true nature of epilepsy and the typical features in young children. (Hippocrates described the epilepsy as a disease, but we can consider that this was largely ignored in Judaea.)
    In the Bible numerous texts mention the hearing of voices, especially the voice of God. Current exegesis (Kittel, Theologisches Woerterbuch des Neuen Testaments, s.v. “Phone”) interbreeds these texts as metaphorical: hearing the voice of God is simply the expression for a vocation by God. However in psychopathology “hear a voice” is a current expression for an auditive (sensory) hallucination. Often the voice heard is identified as the voice of God. So the question is, if the voices heard by Jesus ( Baptism, desert, Thabor) were hallucinatory ones as even Schweitzer suggests.
    The narrative of the baptism of Jesus shows a text-evolution. In the Gospel: as Mark says that Jesus saw the Heaven opened, Matthew says that the heaven opened and that Jesus saw a bird… Luke lays a heavy accent on the physical appearance of a dove and eliminates any allusion to a vision, John adds the testimony of John the Baptist, the latter saw the ghost… The text-evolution seems to intend to change a subjective vision into an objective happening. Of course Mark has always the most original version: Jesus saw the heaven opened, he saw a bird, he heard a voice. This is the evidence, if one considers the complete narrative of Jesus baptism and his stay in the desert. Psychopathological investigation discovers in Mark, Luke and Matthew, regardless of the fact that especially Luke adapted the original version, a number of well-known symptoms of an hallucinatory state: hearing the voices of God and the devil, seeing wild beasts (zoopsie), having the impression to fly (vestibular hallucination), having visions of the whole world, suffering from anorexia (fasting). In that light the vision of the Baptism also is certainly another manifestation of this hallucinatory state: a well-localised (heavenly) vision, seeing a light (opening of heaven) , of a bird, the hearing of a voice, communicating a grandiose genetic message (you are my beloved son), a voice speaking in the second person as hallucinatory voices often do.
    Date Contradcition about the date of birth of Jesus
    It is important to see the essential difference between the Gospel of Infancy and the baptism-Thabor episode. Most biblical students see the Gospel of Infancy as a mythical corpus in the New Testament and they mention numerous reasons. First there are the chronological contradictory data. According to Matthew Jesus should be born (between 6 and 4 B.C.) during the reign of the great Herod, who died in 4 B.C.; the census which according to Luke, obliged the parents to travel to Bethlehem, was executed by Quirinius, who according to the precise indications of Flavius Josephus, the Jewish historian, became procurator of Syria in 7 A.D.., i.e. 11 to 12 years later. Furthermore the beginning of Jesus public life, when he was about thirty years, is situated by Luke (3,1) in the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius (1 October 27-30 September 28). According to that indication Jesus should be born in 4-3 B.C . The historians never solved these difficulties.
    Secondly: the divergence between Matthew and Luke is striking. For Luke an angel appears to Mary and to Elizabeth. For Matthew each event is predicted in the Old Testament; for Luke the quotations of the O.T. are replaced by occasional prophecies by Hannah and Simeon. For Matthew a star appears, magicians come, there is a flight to Egypt and a killing of innocents by the great Herod. For Luke there are only shepherds, angels and music, the circumcision in the Temple and a simple return to Nazareth. He does not mention Egypt, or the Innocents. In the Protevangelium Jacobi another series of divergent elements can be found. Herod kills Zechariah, while John is sought for; there is no star, no magicians, no prophecies, only the angels and their message to Mary and to Elizabeth.
    Thirdly: the only elements, which all witnesses have in common are: 1° the exceptional pregnancy of Mary, 2° the hesitation of Joseph, 3° the birth of Jesus, 4° the  exceptional sphere of wonders. Each witness surrounds these historical events with a scenery of marvellous elements of his own…
    As has been said, if all symptoms coherently are in accordance with a well-known syndrome, there can be no more doubt about the historical truth of the described facts because it was impossible in Hebrew antiquity to describe accurately and correctly what twenty centuries later became known as a mental disease without having observed it. The fact that can be shown is that in the Gospel an image is found of Jesus, which is entirely coherent with the syndrome of paraphrenia, and that it is quite sure that this was not the intention of the authors of the Gospel. Nothing specifically divine or even superior is noted. Paraphrenia has to be understood as a mental disease sometimes also classified in the category of paranoia and opposed to schizophrenia. In opposition to the schizophrenic the paraphrenic remains adapted to his milieu, has a coherent thinking and a well-organised behaviour. Generally hallucinations are rare, but initiate a delusional state, often with a grandiose genetic theme. The paraphrenic is very sensitive to the opposition against his ideas: he is often full of resentment and hate. This is exactly the image the Gospel has painted of Jesus. If miracles are the only argument for the supposed divinity of Jesus, one must take into account that a number of these are certainly pseudo-miracles (cf. the epileptic child ‘(Mc. 9) or the possessed of Gerasa (Mc. 5)).
    Citation from the research Papers.
    * This Post is to present diverse views.I have posted artciles on Objectiobale material in Hinduism,Islam as well.
    So do not conclude this is Christianity bashing.
    Contradicting views with research welcome.