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  • Why Vasishta Not Found In South , Shiva Left Dravida?

    It has come to my to notice that Vasishta Gotra is not found much in the South of Vindhyas as much as it is in the North through a shrewd observation by a reader while commenting on mu Post Which Gotra is Superior?

    Yes, it is a fact that Vaishista Gotra is very limited in the South.

    Sage Vasishta.jpg Sage Vasishta.

    One may also notice that Vasishta comes into prominence only after Ramayana despite the fact that Vasishta is one of the Saptha Rishis, who are eternal

    And he was the Sage who is also one of the Nava Prajapathis, Nine Prajapathis amomg Daksha, whose Yaaga was destroyed by Veerabhadra on the orders of Lord Shiva.

    Vasishta composed (rather grasped and expressed will be the correct term)  Mandala 7 of the Rigveda. as the Chief.

    The Sag Viswamitra yearned for The Title of Brahma Rishi from Vasishta even though he was called such by even Brahma.

    Why is it that such a great personality does not find a prominent place before Ramayana?

    The Bhagavatha Purana states that the ancestor of Lord Rama Satyavrata Manu  left Dravida(South)  for Ayodhya and his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty.

    This was necessitated by the great Tsunami in the south as recorded in Tamil classical literature.

    Lord Shiva left , at the same time,along with his son Ganesha moved out through the western coast of Bharatavarsha, traveled through the middle east, Europe, Africa, Americas,and finally reached Arctic.

    And it was in the Arctic the Rig veda was compiled.

    I have detailed post on this, as for all the observations I have made here and exhaustive research was done by Bal Gangadhar Tilak in his Book Arctic Home of the Vedas.

    after the rig Veda was composed Shiva and Ganesha set out for India through Russia and Khyber Pass .

    This has been misinterpreted as Aryan Invasion.

    The archeological evidence linking Ganesha and Shiva throughout the world would strengthen this point.

    Now Vasishta, being a Manu and a Parajapati obviously left along with Shiva and while Maheswara sukthas are by Shiva, Rig veda important portions were done by vasishta and others.

    It may be of interest to note that there is a Temple For Daksha in Kerala( I have a Post on this)

    Thus ,as Vasishta left along with Shiva at the time of Tsunami there are minimal references to Vasishta in the South.

    By the time they returned to india, and Vasishta had become the Kula Guru of Ikshvaku Dynasty, years had gone by.

    In the south the other progeny of Shiva, Subrahmanya, called as Murugan in Tamil spread Santana Dharma in South East Asia and developed the Santana dharma further in the south.

    That is the reason one finds the Murugan is identified with Tamil and Shiva being treated as the Adhi Siddha and as ‘Ancient of the Ancients’

    Munnaip Pazhamporutku Munnaip ParamPorule – Tamil.

    Hnece Vasishta lineage was limited in the south and as he became the Kula Guru after settling down in the North his clan expanded there.

    Hence ther are less Vasishta Gotra in South.

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    Vashishtha (Sanskrit: वशिष्ठ, वसिष्ठ, IAST: Vaśiṣṭha, Vasiṣṭha, Thai: Vasit, Tamil: வசிட்டர்) is one of the Saptarishis (seven great Rishis) in the seventh, i.e. the presentManvantara, or age of Manu.[1] Vashista is a manasputra of God Brahma. He had in his possession the divine cow Kamadhenu, and Nandini her child, who could grant anything to their owners. Arundhati is the name of the wife of Vashista. RigVeda 7:33 mentions Vashishtha rishi as son of MitraVaruṇa and Urvasi.[2][3]

    Vashistha, as one of 9 Prajapatis, is credited as the chief author of Mandala 7 of the Rigveda. Vashistha and his family are glorified in RV 7.33, extolling their role in the Battle of the Ten Kings, making him the only mortal besides Bhava to have a Rigvedic hymn dedicated to him. Another treatise attributed to him is “Vashistha Samhita” – a book on the Vedic system of electional astrology

    More on VasishtaPrajapati to follow.

    Citation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vashistha

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  • Which Gotra Is Superior?

    My article Difference ‘Between Viswamitra Kaushika Gotras Why No Bharata’ is being read widely and there have been comments on it, most of them thanking me for clarifying the issue.

    There are some comments which differ from the others.

    I am replying for some relevant ,in my opinion important comments.

    One of them states that I should refrain from writing articles on this subject as the definition and explanation of Brahma Rishis is not clear.

    I quote,

    I belong to KAUSHIKA GOTHRA. I still doubt about the concept of BRAHMARISI. Even Sage Vashista as per Mahabharatha is different from BRAHMARISHI VASHISTA.. It is better not to write articles on this for the following reasons. It is a well known fact the PROGENITOR OF BOTH VISWAMITHRA AND KAUSHIKA GOTHRAS is SAGE KUSHIKA –A MANASA PUTHRA OF BRAHMA. hen how can be descendents of KUSHIKA NOT BE CALLED AS BRAHMARISHIS. Further sage Kaushika is one of the five rishis eligible to givE DEEKSHA IN SIVAGAMAS and ne of the FIVE GOTHRAS NOMINATED FOR ACHARYASTHANA. There are different versions about GADHI–THE BRAHMA RAJAN OF KUSHIKA GOTHRAS. As per DEVI MAHATMAYAM he is son of SAGE KATHA OF KUSHIKA LINEAGE and he is mentioned as KADI BROTHER OF KAUSHIKI WHO BECAME A RIVER. Further GODDESS PARVATHI WAS BORN AS A DAUGHTER TO SGE KATHA AS KATHYAYINI. And there is also anoter sage KATHYAYANA son of KATHA RISHI the famous author of KATHYAYANA SUTRA. It is only from RAMAYANA the story of VISWAMITHRA BEGINS. Here the son of KATHA SAGE is mentioned as GADHI AND NOT KATHI. Further the descendents of SAGE KUSHIKA did not want o become purohits and performed RAJAYA DUTIES. They are not born KSHATRIYAS since they did not belong to five clans of KSHATRIYAS–BRAHMA/NAGA/SURYA/SOMA/AGNI VAMSAS. Hence to consider all descendents of KAUSHIKA is incorrect bu they were only Brahmins performing Rjanya duties. Let us restrict ourselves about VIWAMITHRA’S CONTRIBUTION and need not go about whether he is a KSHATRIYA OR NOT’

    1.I shall continue writing about what I find in the Sruthi and Smriti.

    Saptha Rishis.jpg Saptha Rishis.

    I present facts.

    If some one has a different view they are welcome to post their comments with authentic source/Links.

    If they are authentic, I shall write on the subject with my views, with corrections over my earlier view.

    I am of the opinion that Knowledge , especially in Hinduism , is an open source.

    So long as the information does not run contradictory to Sruthi, It has to be taken as final .

    And this is my view.

    I shall be writing on Brahma Rishis in detail.

    There seems to be some apprehension in some quarters that the origin of the rishis might reflect on the descendants present social standing.

    This is not warranted if one understands that lineage is determined by disposition and Character and not birth as a matter of right.

    This is probably the reason for the proverb in Tamil that states that one should not look deeply into the origin of Rishis and rivers for in both the cases the origins may not be worth to begin with.

    A Sage like Viswamitra was not recognised among the Rishis when he was a powerful King as Kaushika.

    But once he became a Brahma Rishi he was venerated to the extent that his Gayatri Mantra has been the most elevated Status in Hinduism, notwithstanding his origin.

    There was another comment which is connected to this comment, though it may not appear so, is

    ‘Which Gotra is superior?’

    If we take the Puranas as the authority all the Puranas name Kashyapa.

    We can not really say Kasyapa gotra is superior to all the other  Gotras, because,

    Sage Bharatwaja, Atri and Sikleetha were described as the father of Mahalakshmi at different times.

    Then there are the Saptha Rishis.

    They are eternal and their composition changes Manvantara to Manvantara.

    So  they have to be given the utmost respect.

    The message is not to look for the origins of the Rishis and engage oneself in debates as to which Gotra is superior, but to follow the Path given by the Rishi assigned to each Family and adhere to the appropriate Sutras.