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  • Chinese Descendants Of Mahabharata King Pururava?

    The origin of Chinese and Japanese are a mystery.

    While there are claims that the Japanese descended from the Chinese there is yet to be a conclusion.

    One does not find much beyond Buddhism in China , thanks to their self censorship.

    However , there are materials available to indicate that Hinduism was in existence in China before the advent of Buddhism.

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    Chinese worship Hindu Gods.

    Please read my post on this.

    Now there are references in the Mahabharata that the Chinese  fought on the side of the Kauravas in the Epic Battle of Mahabharata, they, being the friends of Bhagadutta, who was close to Duryodhana.

    Vagadatta of Pragyotispur joined the Kurus and we find that the Chinese people sided with Vagadatta, the king of Pragyotispur. It is also found that Vagadatta was present in Yudhisthiras court with many Kirat, Chin, and other soldiers.

    However, during the Rajasuya Yaga of Yudhishtra,Bhagadutta agreed to Arjuna to pay Homage to Yudhistra and be his ally.

    It is also stated that the Chinese were the descendants of the son of Pururavas,Ayu.

    There is a reference in the Chinese tradition that the ancestors of the Chinese people came to China after crossing the high mountain ranges to the South.

    Lost Chinese History supports that King named Vikrama conquered all the parts of Modern China.

    He gave Chinese culture a new life which was lost due to internal conflicts.

     

    This probably refers to Vikramadtiya.

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    King Yudhisthira wanted to perform the greatest of all sacrifices viz. the Rajasuya sacrifice. This involved military activity along with the usual sacrificial rites. The king’s armies would march under his appointed military generals in four cardinal directions and defeat all the kingdoms encountered in their paths. Any kingdom can chose to accept the sway of the king peacefully or choose to battle against the king’s military general. King Yudhisthira obtained a huge army by defeating the rising Magadha empire of king Jarasandha as Bhima slew Jarasandha in a dual of mace-fight. Taking a portion each of that army, the four brothers of king Yudhisthira, viz. Bhima, Arjuna, Nakula and Sahadeva marched from Indraprasthato the four cardinal directions. Arjuna was responsible for the military expedition towards the northern direction.

    Like Jarasandha, king Bhagadatta was another impediment for Yudhisthira’s Rajasuya sacrifice. Jarasandha was slain by Bhima by executing the clever strategy formed by Krishna. Bhagadatta was however a friend of Pandu, the father of the five Pandavas. Arjuna chose to use diplomacy to subdue Bhagadatta, rather than slaying him in battle.

    Pragjyotisha,Captal of Bhagadatta.

    Pragjyotisha is mentioned as a city only once (Mbh.5.48) in Mahabharata. The name Pragjyotisha is applied to the whole of the territory controlled by Bhagadatta, which included the regions north to Indraprastha as well. As a result, confusion arose in the location of the city of Pragjyotisha.Gohati in Assam is usually considered to be the Pragjyotishapura or the city of Pragjyotisha. The location of the city can be in Himachal Pradesh as well. There is a village named Kamaru (Kamru) in Baspa Valley (Sangla Valley) of Kinnaur district of Himachal Pradesh. This is a candidate location of Pragjyotisha city. The name ‘Kamaru’ could be the remnant of the name ‘Kamarupa’ another name of Bhagadatta’s territories. The name Kamarup is however not found in Mahabharata. This name is not used in Mahabharata to denote any territory of Bhagadatta. The name Kamaru or Kamru is also found in Tibet to the north of Bhutan as well. It is not clear if this territory belonged to the Chinas mentioned as allied to Bhagadatta. Mahabharata mentioned about a China territory close to Sindhu river in Tibet as well.

    Prag-jyotisha (Praag:- East; jyotisha: light, astronomy) means the eastern light. Hence it lied to the east, but probably from the point of view of the land of the five rivers (Punjab). Mahabharata also mentions another city or territory with similar name viz. Uttarayotisha (Uttara-jyotisha) meaningthe northern light. Jyotisha also means astronomy. It is not clear if these cities has anything to do with astronomy or if Prag-jyotisha and Uttara-jyotisha had some relationship. Uttarayotisha is mentioned as part of Nakula‘s military expedition to the west.

    According to French art historian Rene Grousset, the name China comes from “an ancient” Sanskrit name for the regions to the east, and not, as often supposed, from the name of the state of Ch’in,” the first dynasty established by Shih Huang Ti in 221 B.C.

    The Sanskrit name Cheena for China could have been derived from the small state of that name in Chan-si in the northwest of China, which flourished in the fourth century B.C. Scholars have pointed out that the Chinese word for lion, shih, used long before the Chin dynasty, was derived from the Sanskrit word, simha, and that the Greek word for China, Tzinista, used by some later writers, appears to be derivative of the Sanskrit Chinasthana. According to Terence Duke, martial arts went from India to China. Fighting without weapons was a specialty of the ancient Ksatriya warriors of India.

    The story of Sun Hou Tzu, the Monkey King, and Hsuang Tsang. It is a vicarious and humorous tale, an adventure story akin to the Hindu epic of Ramayana, and like Ramayana, a moral tale of the finer aspects of human endeavor which come to prevail over those of a less worthy nature. The book ends with a dedication to India: ‘I dedicate this work to Buddha’s Pure Land. May it repay the kindness of patron and preceptor, may it mitigate the sufferings of the lost and damned….’

    (source: Eastern Wisdom, Michael Jordan, p. 134-151)

    Hu Shih, (1891-1962), Chinese philosopher in Republican China. He was ambassador to the U.S. (1938-42) and chancellor of Peking University (1946-48). He said:

    “India conquered and dominated China culturally for two thousand years without ever having to send a single soldier across her border.”

    Lin Yutang, author of The Wisdom of China and India:

    “The contact with poets, forest saints and the best wits of the land, the glimpse into the first awakening of Ancient India’s mind as it searched, at times childishly and naively, at times with a deep intuition, but at all times earnestly and passionately, for the spiritual truths and the meaning of existence – this experience must be highly stimulating to anyone, particularly because the Hindu culture is so different and therefore so much to offer.” Not until we see the richness of the Hindu mind and its essential spirituality can we understand India….”

    “I see no reason to doubt,” comments Arthur Waley in his book, The Way and its Power, “that the ‘holy mountain-men’ (sheng-hsien) described by Lieh Tzu are Indian rishi; and when we read in Chuang Tzu of certain Taoists who practiced movements very similar to the asanas of Hindu yoga, it is at least a possibility that some knowledge of the yoga technique which these rishi used had also drifted into China.”

    Both Sir L. Wooley and British historian Arnold Toynbee speak of an earlier ready-made culture coming to China. They were right. That was the Vedic Hindu culture from India with its Sanskrit language and sacred scripts. The contemporary astronomical expertise of the Chinese, as evidenced by their records of eclipses; the philosophy of the Chinese, their statecraft, all point to a Vedic origin. That is why from the earliest times we find Chinese travelers visiting India very often to renew their educational and spiritual links.

    Citation and References.

    http://aryaculture.tripod.com/vedicdharma/id3.html

    http://ancientvoice.wikidot.com/travel:arjuna-in-pragjyotisha

    http://www.indiadivine.org/news/history-and-culture/the-vedic-roots-of-china-and-japan-r826

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  • Krishna Casteless Cowherd Coward Of Unsound Mind

    After the conclusion of the Raja Suya aga, The Panadavas had to perform the Agra Pooja, the First respect to be paid .

    Among those present Lord Krishna was The One who deserved this Honor.

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    Lord Krishna Viswaroopa

    Excepting one.

    That was Sishupala.

    Lord Krishna st there , smiling at His insults.

    This is described in an interesting manner in Villi Bharatham,Tamil.

    Bhima, who was sitting near Krishna, asks him,

    ” He (Sishupala) keeps on insulting You.

    You are keeping quiet, smiling.

    I can not.

    I shall go and finish him off.

    Krishna replied,

    ‘Wait, I have promised his mother, my aunt, that I shall bear with his 100 insults.”

    Bhima,

    ‘What  if he stops at 99’

    Krishna,

    ‘It is his fate that he completes 100 insults and that I should kill him’

    Sishupala completes his 100 insults and Krishna kills him

    I am reproducing a sample of Insults.

    Read the original in Vyasa Bharata and Magha’s Sishupala vadha.

    If one reads the original, one would  that this is a Tribute to Krihsna, called Nindha Stuhthi.

    ”

    Sisupala remained in his seat, but when he became angry at Krsna’s being honored, Sisupala stood up suddenly, and, raising his hand, began to speak very strongly and fearlessly against Lord Krsna. He spoke in such a way that Lord Krsna could hear him very distinctly.

    “Ladies and gentlemen, I can appreciate now the statement of the Vedasthat, after all, time is the predominating factor.

    In spite of all endeavors to the contrary, the time element executes its own plan without opposition.

    For example, one may try his best to live, but when the time for death comes, no one can check it.

    I see here that although there are many stalwart personalities present in this assembly, the influence of time is so strong that they have been misled by the statement of a boy who has foolishly spoken about Krsna.

    There are many learned sages and elderly persons present, but still they have accepted the statement of a foolish boy.

    This means that by the influence of time, even the intelligence of such honored persons as are present in this meeting can be misdirected.

    I fully agree with the respectable persons present here that they are competent enough to select the personality who can be first worshiped, but I cannot agree with the statement of a boy like Sahadeva, who has spoken so highly about Krsna and has recommended that Krsna is fit to accept the first worship in the sacrifice.

    I can see that in this meeting there are many personalities who have undergone great austerities, who are highly learned, and who have performed many penances.

    By their knowledge and direction, they can deliver many persons who are suffering from the pangs of material existence.

    There are great rsis here whose knowledge has no bounds, as well as many self-realized persons and brahmanasalso, and therefore I think that any one of them could have been selected for the first worship because they are worshipable even by the great demigods, kings and emperors.

    I cannot understand how you could have selected this cowherd boy, Krsna, and have left aside all these other great personalities. I think Krsna to be no better than a crow–how can He be fit to accept the first worship in this great sacrifice?

    “We cannot even ascertain as yet to which caste this Krsna belongs or what His actual occupational duty is.

    ” Actually, Krsna does not belong to any caste, nor does He have to perform any occupational duty. It is stated in the Vedas that the Supreme Lord has nothing to do as His prescribed duty. Whatever has to be done on His behalf is executed by His different energies.

    Sisupala continued: “Krsna does not belong to a high family.

    He is so independent that no one knows His principles of religious life.

    It appears that He is outside the jurisdiction of all religious principles.

    He always acts independently, not caring for the Vedic injunctions and regulative principles.

    Therefore He is devoid of all good qualities.” Sisupala indirectly praised Krsna by saying that He is not within the jurisdiction of Vedic injunctions.

    This is true because He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That He has no qualities means that Krsna has no material qualities, and because He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, He acts independently, not caring for conventions or social or religious principles.

    Sisupala continued: “Under these circumstances, how can He be fit to accept the first worship in the sacrifice?

    Krsna is so foolish that He has left Mathura, which is inhabited by highly elevated persons following the Vedic culture, and He has taken shelter in the ocean, where there is not even talk of the Vedas.

    Instead of living openly, He has constructed a fort within the water and is living in an atmosphere where there is no discussion of Vedic knowledge. And whenever He comes out of the fort, He simply harasses the citizens like a dacoit, thief or rogue.

    Citation.

    http://krsnabook.com/ch74.html

    Image.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KW1AefGJNyQ/mqdefault.jpg

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