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  • ‘Thule Society-Another Like ILLUMINATI?

    Though not as well-known as The ILLUMINATI,Thule Society seems to have had influential followers and played a role in World affairs.

    However we can take this information with a pinch of salt.

    ” While it may be true that the world is on a downward spiral and that Nyarlathotep has achieved nearly every one of his goals…Stomping Nazi butt is allways a worthwhile activity.

    -John Tynes Delta Green

    History:

    The Great War was over and Germany had lost. The Weimar Republic was slowly crumbling. The German econmy was in ruins from war reparations, and Germany had gone from being a european leader to being a debtor state. demobilized soldiers were clashing with leftist groups in the streets. Opiate abuse and alcoholism was at an all time high. The country became a fertile ground for a dream…any dream, that could enable the German people to recapture their lost dignity and power.

    Germany became a hotbed of secret societies. many of the still rich Industrialists, publishers, and aristocrats formed what they called “Volkische” groups which sought to reconnect the German people to some of their lost archetypes. This mixed bag of groups borrowed heavily form any and all forms of esoteric thought. Odinism, Rosicrucian and Freemason thought and structures. Teutonic knightly orders and subverted Theosophy. The idea was to distill German chauvinism to a fine point and begin using it a weapon again. This is why Theosophy was borrowed from. It taught that the fifth race of beings to walk this planet were the Aryan race. All other races that existed were naturally from the inferior fourth race. Since, the Aryan’s came from the land of Thule (said to be in the far north.) it seemed a natural jump to assume that the germanic tribes were descended from that august ancestry. Supposedly, Thule had met it’s doom from interbreeeding with the lesser races and the gods punished them by sinking Thule. Thus racial purity became a driving theme of many of these ancestral heritage groups.

    The Thule Society came about as a result of a merger of two groups. Jorg Lanz von Leibenfells started the Ordens Neiu Templars in 1900. A vigorous anti semite, He published a magazin called Ostara which often depicted paintings of strong jawed germanic types saving buxom german women from the clutches of subhuman “Other Race ” types. It caught on with the disaffected youth and he used his fortune to bolster his New Templar group. along with that of many like minded rich men of the age with an interest in the decadence of the occult.

    Lanz found common cause with Guido von List who helmed his own group called the Armanen (which was the first group to adopt the slightly altered Swastika as a symbol of their own.) Both men were rabidly anit-semitic and politcally motivated towards extreme rightist and nationalist causes. In 1912, Armanen merged with the ONT and a new group was born. The Ordens Germanum.

    Slowly but surely this group began to attract a large Inner circle of men who were rich, powerful, and very interested in the occult.. From this sprang the Thule Gesechafft, whose driving force was Baron Rudolf Freiherr von Serbottendorff. He had been schooled in occultism, Islamic mysticism, alchemy, Rosicrucianism and much else, in Turkey, where he had also been initiated into Freemasonry. Thule served as the recruiting and political action front of the Ordens Germanum. Serbottendorff bought a failing Munich newspaper, the Beobachter which he renamed the Volkische Beobachter and it became the official newspaper of the NSDAP.

    The Thule Society inner circle had the following beliefs:

    Thule was a legendary island in the far north, similar to Atlantis, supposedly the center of a lost, high-level civilization. But not all secrets of that civilization had been completely wiped out. Those that remained were being guarded by ancient, highly intelligent beings (similar to the “Masters” of Theosophy or the White Brotherhood). The truly initiated could establish contact with these beings by means of magic-mystical rituals.

    The “Masters” or “Ancients” allegedly would be able to endow the initiated with supernatural strength and energy.

    With the help of these energies the goal of the initiated was to create a race of Supermen of “Aryan” stock who would exterminate all “inferior” races.

    The Inner Circle began to realize that they would need not only money to gain control of their wayward country they would need muscle. To this end, Sebbotendorf tapped one of their members, a locksmith named Karl Harrer to create a “Workers Auxilliary” of rightist workers unafraid to mix it up. Harrer named the new group the Workers Political Circle but this eventually became the National Socialist German Workers Party (or NSDAP in 1920 ) Eventually Hitler took over this group but we’ll get to him later…

    The Thule Society concerned itself with fighting the Bavarian Communist Governement and battling Marxism wherever it flourished. They established a spy network and arms caches and battled the forces of Munich’s soviet government. Their propaganda campaign was aided by a brilliant poet, playwright, journalist and occultist by the name of Dietrick Eckart. Eckart was to become a major fixture and a member of the inner circle despite his drug and alcohol abuse. His influence and intellect created a master spokeperson out of a shy introverted painter. When Hitler is arrested during the Beer Hall Putsch of 1923 and sent to prison for 2 years he writes Mein Kampf and dedicates it to Eckart. His master felt similar affection and urged his fellow Thulists to support and follow Htler when he lay on his deathbed.Serbottendorff himself stated: “Thule members were the people to whom Hitler first turned and who first allied themselves with Hitler.”

    Hitler was something of a “Fair Haired boy.” to the Thulists.Many other decommissioned soldiers waited out the turbulence of Munich in the barracks, pfc Adolph Hitler among them. After the Bavarian Republic had been defeated by the Whites, in May, Hitler’s superiors put him to work in the post revolution investigating commission. His indictments injected ruthless efficiency into the kangaroo courts as he fingered hundreds of noncommissioned officers and enlisted men who had sympathized with the communist and anarchists. He was subsequently sent to attend special anticommunist training courses and seminars at the University which were financed by the Reichswehr administration and by privatedonors from the Thule Society. From this point on, Hitler’s military career and his political career ran on greased rails. Eckart took the young man under his wing and showed him what he could become.There can be no doubt that Eckart – who had been alerted to Hitler by other Thulists – trained Hitler in techniques of self confidence, self projection, persuasive oratory, body language and discursive sophistry. With these tools, in a short period of time he was able to move the obscure workers party from the club and beer hall atmosphere to a mass movement. The emotion charged lay speaker became an expert orator, capable of mesmerizing a vast audience.

    In prison, Hitler also met General Karl Haushofer, a university professor and director of the Munich Institute of Geopolitics. Haushofer was also inclined toward the esoteric. as military attache in Japan, he had studied Zen-Buddhism. He had also gone through initiations at the hands of Tibetan Lamas. He became Hitler’s second “esoteric mentor”, replacing Dietrich Eckart. In Berlin, Haushofer had founded the Luminous Lodge or the Vril Society. The lodge’s objective was to explore the origins of the Aryan race and to perform exercises in concentration to awaken the forces of “Vril”. Haushofer was a student of the Russian magician and metaphysician Gregor Ivanovich Gurdyev (George Gurdjieff). Gurdjieff had cribbed much of his teachings from tibetan and Sufi mysticks himself so it’s really no shock that there is this weird German/Tibetan/Turkish connection, especially considering Sebbotendorf’s influence. In later years, Gurdjieff himself would seek out contact with Hitler as would Aleister Crowley (allthough Crowley’s contact with Thule would be largely because he was seeking a more congenial setting in which to nestle after being booted out of Italy by Mussolini. There are rumors that at this time Crowley was a german spy, an english spy or playing both sides against the middle.)

    Agenda:

    The Thule Society agenda is broad and multi-pronged. They seek to regain control from communists elements in their country. They seek to bolster the german economy and rebuild the greatness of the Weimar republic. They seek to inspire common germans to greatness. They seek to destroy the threats represented by the inferior races mixing with the Aryan race and the stranglehold that jews have held over european banking. and last, but certainly not least, they wish to scour the globe for knowledgable mysticks, Potent relics, Places of power they can control, and books of lore. Anything they find is co-opted into some garbled form of Thulist mythos. The Society will often go through legitmate methods first but are not afraid to perform criminal acts to get what they want.

     http://home.insightbb.com/~kinesys/the_thule_society.htm

     Related:

    Bill Cooper, in his book, Behold A Pale Horse, quotes a document from the Bilderberg Secret Society, which is an offshoot of Skull and Bones. “Since most of the general public will not exercise [economic] restraint…[we must] take control of the world by the use of economic silent weapons in a form of quiet warfare and reduce [the dangerous levels of consumption] of the world to a safe level by a process of benevolent slavery and genocide.” (p. 49). How could anyone ever think of slavery and genocide as being benevolent? This was the precise thinking of Hitler as he was planning his New World Order. He was going to rid the world of all the undesirables by benevolent warfare . We reviewed the horrible results in an earlier section; however, these figures pale in comparison with the deaths of 4 billion people, actually about 72 times larger than Hitler’s 54 million deaths.

    Therefore, when Jesus Christ reviews all actions on the day of the White Throne Judgment He will likely judge that the slaughter of 4,000,000,000 [billion] people during the New World Order of Bush and Clinton is 72 times more worthy of judgment than the 55,000,000 [million] killed under the New World Order of Adolf Hitler!

    At this point, you may protest that the current drive to the New World Order is being achieved peacefully. This is true, but when it is fully achieved, it will fulfill Biblical prophecy which states “When people are saying ‘All is well and secure’ and ‘There is peace and safety’, then in a moment, unforeseen destruction, ruin and death shall come upon them and no one shall escape.” (1 Thess 5:3).

    Further, these plans, if carried out, will also fulfill Biblical prophecy in Revelation 6:4, “And another horse came out flaming red. And its rider was empowered to take peace from the earth, so that men slaughtered one another, and he was given a huge sword.”

    Thus, we see that the New World Order goals of the Secret Societies, chief of which is Skull and Bones, when completed, would fulfill many Biblical Prophecies.  Do not be deceived into supporting Governor George W. Bush.

    UPDATED INFORMATION

    During the presidential campaign of 2000, George W. Bush cast great new light on his past, and current, membership of the Skull & Bones.  On August 1, 2000, Republican Candidate George W. Bush was interviewed by Walter Isaacson on cnn.com. This report, posted on the CNN internet site, was entitled, “George W. Bush:  “My Heritage Is Part Of Who I Am’ “.  The results for the Biblically discerning are shocking and definitive.  Put your discernment hat on.

    In the course of the interview, Isaacson asked George W. about his past Skull and Bones experience.  If ever George W. had a perfect opportunity to genuinely come clean about Skull and Bones, this was the time.  As we revealed in this article, above, Skull and Bones is deeply and darkly Satanic; its sister German secret society, The Thule Society, had trained Adolf Hitler into the deepest and darkest of Satanic Black Magick.  If George W. were truly Born Again, this opportunity was perfect for him to repent of his past involvment and to boldly reveal the terrible Antichrist plans that Skull and Bones has been moving America toward for the past 170 years.  Did George W. repent and come clean?

    http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1314.cfm

  • Most outrageous comments of 2009

    Outrageous comments are nothing new to the conservative media — one might even call them a defining characteristic. The Most Outrageous Comment of the 2009 came when Fox News host Glenn Beck asserted that Obama is a “racist” who has “exposed himself as a guy” with “a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture,” but right-wing media figures made plenty of other unhinged remarks throughout the year:

    Racially charged remarks

    The election of the first black U.S. president led to a slew of racially charged comments that were truly outrageous:

    Limbaugh on Obama: “We are being told that we have to hope he succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles … because his father was black”
    Jesse Lee Peterson: “I think we all agree that Barack Obama was elected by, mostly by black racists and white guilty people.”
    Criticizing federal response in KY, Quinn claimed Obama “basically sees white people as kind of a you know, sort of an evil fact of life”
    Savage: Obama is “biggest liar in the history of the presidency,” and he’s “getting away with it… because he’s a man of color”
    Limbaugh: “[I]n Obama’s America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering”
    Limbaugh: Obama is “the greatest living example of a reverse racist”
    Limbaugh: “Obama’s entire economic program is reparations”
    Bay Buchanan on “quota queen” Sotomayor: “Her whole life was dedicated to demanding special privileges”
    Pat Buchanan: “This has been a country built, basically, by white folks”
    O’Reilly tease: “[S]hould white Americans be concerned about Judge Sotomayor?”
    Quinn to “race-baiting” African-American “ingrates”: “get on your knees” and “kiss the American dirt” because slavery brought them to U.S.
    Savage declares: “The white Christian heterosexual married male is the epitome of everything right with America”
    War on the poor

    In the midst of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, some right-wing media figures attacked the poor:

    Cunningham on the poor: “They’re poor because they lack values, ethics, and morals”
    Cunningham on Section 8 housing: “I like keeping all those degenerates in one location so we can keep an eye on them”; residents “sit around and fornicate, defecate”
    Bill Cunningham claims stimulus “give[s] ACORN up to $4.2 trillion” and contains “$350 million to hand out condoms and birth control pills so the poor can fornicate like rabbits”
    Limbaugh fill-in Davis: Cash for Clunkers “helps your shiftless cousin buy more meth,” lets you buy “carton of Luckys”
    Boortz: People living in Katrina trailers, Section 8 housing and on welfare shouldn’t be allowed to vote
    Boortz welfare rant — “human parasitic garbage lining up to get their applications to loot”
    War on women

    Right-wing media figures also engaged in sexism and downright misogyny:

    Quinn calls Pelosi “Bolshevik Bitch with a Mallet”
    Limbaugh: If Pelosi “wants fewer births, I have the way to do this and it won’t require any contraception: You simply put pictures of Nancy Pelosi … in every cheap motel room. … That will keep birthrates down because that picture will keep a lot of things down”
    Limbaugh airs clip of Hillary Clinton, asks his listeners, “Doesn’t that remind you of your first, and maybe your second, both, your ex-wives?”
    Limbaugh on Pelosi: “The third person in line for the presidency in this country is a complete airhead”
    Limbaugh: “[Granholm’s] a ditz. Pelosi is a ditz. Obama is a menace and a danger.”
    Savage claims that “as a result of women on Naval ships,” they have become “floating brothel ”
    sLimbaugh: Hillary Clinton wasn’t let into Marines because “they didn’t have uniforms or boots big enough to fit that butt and those ankles”
    Post’s Milbank, flashing Hillary Clinton photo: “We won’t tell you who’s getting a bottle of Mad Bitch” beer
    Quinn on Pelosi: “This bitch is trying to get us to lose the war!”
    Ingraham: “Nancy Pelosi basically did everything except sell her own body” to pass health care reform bill
    Beck on Landrieu: “We’re with a high-class prostitute”
    Echoing Beck, Limbaugh claims Landrieu “may be the most expensive prostitute in the history of prostitution”
    Attacks on GLBT community

    In addition to a sustained assault on Department of Education official Kevin Jennings, right-wingers made outrageous attacks based on sexual orientation:

    Savage: “One of the reasons America is suffering right now is because so many people who are gay have not had children. … Some of the most wonderful genetic material is going to waste”
    Hannity and “Great American” panelists fearmonger about Jennings “indoctrinating” children, “promoting homosexuality”
    Limbaugh: “[W]e all know that Barney [Frank] patrols Uranus”
    Quinn:”[T]the last time I checked, two guys doing the bone dance with Mr. Sphincter was not going to produce the next generation of children”
    Robertson: Many “made homosexual because of a coach or a guidance counselor or some other male figure who has abused them”
    O’Reilly again claims that if gay marriage was legalized, “you could have married a duck”
    Pat Robertson suggests “ultimate conclusion” of legal same-sex marriage is legal polygamy, bestiality, child molestation, pedophilia
    Revolutionary and paranoid rhetoric

    Right-wingers frequently employed paranoid and revolutionary rhetoric and suggested that progressives, including Obama and Democrats in Congress, were betraying America.

    Morris: “Those crazies in Montana who say, ‘We’re going to kill ATF agents because the U.N.’s going to take over’ — well, they’re beginning to have a case”
    Limbaugh: “Thank you President Obama. Thank you CNN. You are doing the job that everybody expects of you, taking every tradition and institution that defined this country’s greatness and trying to rip it to shreds”
    Limbaugh claims White House is “[p]erfectly timed, perfectly programmed, perfectly educated to destroy capitalism … and they’re in the process of doing it”
    Fox’s Charles Payne: “[O]ne day, I think that we are heading toward a one-world sort of government. I think Obama probably likes that”
    Limbaugh attacks state of Maine, says “saw the state off and let it float out to sea”
    Claiming Obama is “letting our troops literally bleed and die” in Afghanistan, Beck suggests he will “pay for it” in afterlife
    Savage: “[L]ikelihood is very high” that “martial law will be declared” after “equivalent of the Reichstag fire” occurs
    Savage: “There are internment camps being planned” and the National Guard is going to “run” them
    Limbaugh: “if we had any good luck, Honduras would send some people here and help us get our government back”
    Beck guest Scheuer: “The only chance we have as a country right now is” for bin Laden to “detonate a major weapon” in U.S.
    Beck: “[I]f we don’t have some common sense, we’re facing the destruction of our country… it’s coming”
    Rodgers: A “few million dead Americans” will “wake up” public “to the fact that they have elected an anti-American President”
    CBS golf analyst Feherty: “[I]f you gave any U.S. soldier a gun with two bullets in it … there’s a good chance that Nancy Pelosi would get shot twice, and Harry Reid and bin Laden would be strangled to death.”
    Morris on Obama’s foreign policy: “If you’re an enemy of America… he’s in bed with you… The way to get popular with this administration is to be an enemy of the United States”
    Beck: “You can’t convince me that the founding fathers wouldn’t allow you to secede”
    Beck imitates Obama pouring gasoline on “average American”; says: “President Obama, why don’t you just set us on fire? … We didn’t vote to lose the Republic”
    Newsmax columnist: Military coup “to resolve the ‘Obama problem’ ” is not “unrealistic”
    Birthers

    Conspiracy theories about Obama’s birth certificate were conclusively debunked during the 2008 campaign, but that didn’t stop several right-wing commentators from continuing to push the smear:

    Limbaugh: “Barack Obama has yet to have to prove he’s a citizen. All he’d have to do is show a birth certificate”
    Dobbs asks: “[S]hould he produce his birth certificate — the long form, the real deal? Should he be a little more forthcoming? … What is the deal here? I’m starting to think we have a — we have a document issue. Do you suppose he’s un — no, I won’t even use the word undocumented. It wouldn’t be right.”
    Liddy claims Obama “born” in Kenya; warns guest to “to avoid the corpses of the illegal aliens” while passing through desert
    Limbaugh: “God does not have a birth certificate. Neither does Obama.”
    Hannity: Given his father’s birthplace, what’s wrong with asking if Obama has a “legitimate birth certificate?”
    Nazis and fascists and communists, oh my!

    There were far more attacks on Obama and other progressives as Nazis, fascists, communists, Marxists, socialists, and similar labels than we have space for, so here are some of the most ridiculous examples:

    Days after decrying those who say Democrats are “trying to turn us into communist Russia,” Beck claimed Obama “has Marxist tendencies”
    Beck continues long history of invoking Nazis by comparing Fox to the Jews during the Holocaust
    Quinn agrees with caller that Democrats “took over the country without firing a shot,” adds “so did Hitler”
    Savage: Obama “is a neo-marxist fascist dictator in the making”
    In CNBC host Cramer’s “U.S.S.A.”: “Comrade[]” Obama is a “Bolshevik” who is “taking cues from Lenin”
    Limbaugh: “Adolf Hitler, like Barack Obama, also ruled by dictate”
    Hannity suggests SCOTUS nominee will be “somebody extremely radical” since Obama’s policies have been “radically left” and “socialist”
    Dick Morris’ self-confessed conspiracy theory: Obama “wants his plan to fail…so that he can make the case for bank nationalization and vindicate his dream of a socialist economy”
    Other

    Plenty of other remarks defied categorization but certainly merited mention among the Most Outrageous Comments of 2009:

    Limbaugh likens Democrats to murderers, rapists, and “this Muslim guy” that “offed his wife’s head”
    Limbaugh on EFCA: “One day Tony Soprano will walk in with a lead pipe and he will start beating people upside the head to vote to unionize”
    Ingraham guest host Bruce on the Obamas: “We’ve got trash in the White House”
    Beck portrays Obama, Democrats as vampires “going after the blood of our businesses,” suggests “driv[ing] a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers”
    Beck: “Nobel Peace Prize should be turned down by Barack Obama and given … to the Tea Party goers and the 9-12 Project”
    Perino: “We did not have a terrorist attack on our country during President Bush’s term”
    Fox’s Wallace on ACORN booking: I wish we “were going to have the prostitute [Giles] because she’s pretty cute”
    Beck encourages “day of Fast and Prayer for the Republic” on Yom Kippur
    Dobbs on Howard Dean: “[H]e’s a bloodsucking leftist — I mean, you gotta put a stake through his heart to stop this guy”
    Beck jokes about “put[ting] poison” in Nancy Pelosi’s wine
    Brandishing bat, Beck declares, “Anyone not on board, look out, because you too could be the next victim of the killing spree”
    http://mediamatters.org/research/200912210033

  • Nick Griffin uses BBC appearance to attack Muslims and gays.

    One need not agree with Mr.Griffin;but certain points are to be noted.
    The language he used ,may be incorrect.
    1.Islam is not only incompatible with British Society of today,but of most societies in the world of today as well.Many of us are scared to voice this opinion because it does not seem to be the right thing to say.
    2.Homosexuals are definitely an aberration;accept it;they are abnormal and sick;do not justify them,but treat them.
    His remarks on coloreds are not appropriate.
    If people were to retaliate they can say that ,in fact Britain was colonising the world till yesterday.May be, sins of fathers are visiting sons!
    More over, Britain today depends on coloreds for their survival, Brown in paritcular.If they decide to leave,you shall be in a bleak island, a US surrogate.
    3.His remarks on Holocaust is totally abhorrent.Totally inhumane.
    4.However ,BBC has done a good job of interviewing him.Democracy is all about discussion and clarification and no gagging.

    Story:
    Mr Griffin said Islam was not compatible with life in Britain, while describing homosexuals as “creepy”.
    The remarks provoked indignation from other members of the BBC panel and hostile parts of the audience, some of whom booed, calling him “a disgrace”.

    The BNP leader could not explain why he had previously sought to play down the Holocaust and defended his use of Sir Winston Churchill on BNP literature on the basis that his father had fought in the Second World War.

    He claimed that Churchill would have been a member of the BNP and was “Islamaphobic” by “today’s standard”.

    Asked whether he denied that millions of Jews and other minorities had been killed by the Nazis, Mr Griffin would only reply: “I do not have a conviction for Holocaust denial.”

    He was then chastised by David Dimbleby, the host of the programme, for smiling.

    The controversial statements were made in response to intense questioning by members of the audience from ethnic minorities.

    BBC Television Centre in west London came under siege as filming took place, with MPs joining hundreds of protesters behind lines of police. There were six arrests as dozens of protesters attempted to storm the studio.

    BBC studios in Hull, Scotland and Wales were also targeted by demonstrators. The cost of the police operation was estimated to be more than £100,000.

    The BBC was certain to be questioned over why it allowed Mr Griffin to air such controversial views but executives were hoping that the intensive questioning that he faced would justify their decision to invite him on the Question Time panel for the first time.

    The BBC, which Mr Griffin denounced on the programme as “ultra-Leftist”, had claimed that impartiality rules meant that it had little choice but to invite him on to the programme after the BNP won seats in the European Parliament in elections earlier this year.

    He was joined on the panel by Jack Straw, the Justice Secretary, Baroness Warsi, the Tory spokesman on community cohesion, Chris Huhne, the Liberal Democrats’ home affairs spokesman, and Bonnie Greer, a black American playwright.

    Mr Griffin was seated next to Miss Greer.

    One of the most controversial moments came when Mr Dimbleby asked the BNP leader why he had been pictured with David Duke, the former leader of the Klan. Mr Griffin claimed that parts of the racist group, officially classed as a “hate organisation” in America, were “non-violent”.

    However, he insisted: “I’m not a Nazi and never have been.”

    He claimed that he was “the most loathed man in Britain” among British fascists.

    He was questioned over his views on Islam and said it had “good points” but “does not fit in with the fundamental values of British society”. He was also attacked for describing white Britons as the “indigenous” population who faced “genocide”. We are the Aborigines here, he said.

    Amid angry scenes, one Asian member of the audience asked Mr Griffin where he would like him to be sent and then suggested that he himself might find the South Pole a good destination because it was “a colourless landscape”.

    Mr Griffin boasted to BNP supporters before the programme that he was “relishing” the prospect of “political blood sport”. “I will, no doubt, be interrupted, shouted down, slandered, put on the spot, and subjected to a scrutiny that would be a thousand times more intense than anything directed at other panellists,” he said. “It will, in other words, be political blood sport. But I am relishing this opportunity.”

    Speaking after filming had finished, Mr Griffin claimed that he had been able to “land some punches”.

    About one million people voted for the BNP at the European elections, leading to Mr Griffin taking up one of its two seats in the European Parliament. As a result, BBC executives said strict impartiality rules effectively forced them to include the party in Question Time.

    Mark Thompson, the director-general of the BBC, said the Government should ban the BNP if it felt that Mr Griffin should not have been allowed to take part in the broadcast.

    “If there is a case for censorship, it should be debated and decided in Parliament,” he said. “Political censorship cannot be outsourced to the BBC or anyone else.”

    He said the BNP had “demonstrated a level of support that would normally lead to an occasional invitation to join the panel on Question Time”.

    Politicians from minor parties, including George Galloway, the Respect MP, and Caroline Lucas, the leader of the Green party, regularly appeared on Question Time.

    Mr Thompson insisted that Mr Griffin had been invited so that the public could challenge his views, rather than any “misguided desire to be controversial”.

    Speaking before the programme, Gordon Brown said the BNP’s appearance was a matter for the BBC and that he was confident that Mr Griffin would be exposed for his “unacceptable” views.

    “I hope that the exposure of the BNP will make people see what they are really like,” the Prime Minister said.

    However, there were fears that Mr Griffin’s appearance would lead to an increase in support.

    He had said he was hopeful his party would be propelled into “the big time” as a result of the broadcast and described his appearance on the show as “a milestone in the indomitable march of the British National Party towards saving our country”.

    Ken Livingstone, the former mayor of London and the chairman of Unite Against Fascism, claimed that the broadcast could lead to an increase in racist attacks and views.

    “For the angry racist it’s a trigger that turns into an attack,” he said.

    “We first saw this when Enoch Powell made his Rivers of Blood speech. There was a huge surge of attacks on black conductors on our buses, and that is why I think you apply a different standard to the BNP to those parties that do not legitimise this sort of violence against minorities.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6410764/BNP-on-Question-Time-Nick-Griffin-uses-BBC-appearance-to-attack-Muslims-and-gays.html#