Tag: Hermann Kallenbach

  • Gandhi And Kallenbach- Extract of Letters .

    Extracts from Letters by Gandhi to Hermann Kallenbach

    (July 20, August 16 & August 28, 1937)


    Letter of July 20, 1937 from Segaon:

    “I have read the Palestine Report. It makes sad reading but the Commission could not do anything more. It almost admits the critical blunder a promise to the Arabs and a contrary one to the Jews. Breach of promise became inevitable. I am more than ever convince that the only proper and dignified solution is the one I have suggested now more so than before. My solution admits of no … If the Jews will rely wholly on the Arab goodwill, they must once for all renounce British protection. I wonder if they will adopt the heroic remedy. More when we meet.”

    Letter of August 16, 1937 from Wardha:

    “What you have done is all right. I had a long talk with Andrews. I do not know what we will be able to do. The more I observe the events happening the more convinced I feel of the correctness of my advice.

    “It is likely to be a voice in the wilderness. Nevertheless if you feel as strongly as I do, you will take up the firm & only stand that is likely to do good… in the end. Without that, there will be no happy home for the Jews in Palestine.”

    Letter of August 28, 1937 from Segaon:

    “… I have just read the monograph sent to me at your instance on Zionism. The sender’s name is not given. The statement is very impressive, deeply interesting. And if it is true a settlement between the Jews & the Arabs might not be difficult. I quite clearly see that if you are to play any part in bringing about an honourable settlement, your place is in India. It might be that you might have to go at times to South Africa. You might have to go frequently to Palestine, but much of the work lies in India as I visualise the development of the settlement talks. All this I say irrespective of the domestic arrangement between us as to your coming in December…

    “I am conferring with Andrews also as to what he should do in Palestine. But I have not the time to tell you all these things. … the need to know them. It is enough for you to know that I am redeeming my promise to interest myself in the movement.”


    Source: GandhiServe Foundation – Mahatma Gandhi Research and Media Service (reprinted with permission)

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/KallenbachGandhi.html

    Given the furore about the allegations made of Gandhi's bisexuality and 
    relationship with Hermann Kallenbach in Lelyveld's new book, I thought there 
    might be some interest in these two articles I wrote for the Times of India's 
    Crest edition last Saturday. The first and shorter one is about Kallenbach, who 
    deserves to be better known, if not in such a sensational way. Since the Crest 
    article online requires subscription, which is annoying even though free, I'm 
    posting the full text below: 
    
    More than just a friend 
    Kallenbach was for Gandhi nothing as simple as a lover. In the long run, he was 
    something rather more important, his first real disciple 
    VIKRAM DOCTOR 
    
    Nothing about the relationship between Mohandas Gandhi and Hermann Kallenbach 
    sounds as strange as the terms they used for each other — Upper House and Lower 
    House, respectively. Yet Hanna Lazar, Kallenbach’s niece, who lived with him 
    for years, gave a logical explanation for them in a letter to Pyarelal, 
    Gandhi’s secretary and biographer. She wrote: “in the English parliament there 
    is a Senate = Upper House, and the Executive = Lower House, or the Law Giver 
    and the one who carries out the Laws.” This is not quite accurate as a 
    description of the English parliament, but her meaning is clear: Gandhi was the 
    conceptualiser and Kallenbach the implementer. 
    
    Better than anything else, this shows what Kallenbach was for Gandhi — nothing 
    as simple as a lover, but something rather more important in the long run, his 
    first real disciple, which is, of course, a relationship that can, of course, 
    carry quite a measure of love. Gandhi’s capacity to attract the devotion of 
    people was perhaps what really marked him out as a leader from the start, but 
    even among them, Kallenbach occupies a special place. Where others were often 
    clergymen, teachers or minor tradesmen, Kallenbach was a successful architect 
    and a relatively wealthy man. Yet he was willing to put all this aside to 
    follow Gandhi. 
    
    The change was remarkable. Gandhi would write that Kallenbach led a life of 
    “luxury and extravagance” before they met. He followed Gandhi’s often really 
    experimental diets, ometimes only fruits or nuts. He gifted Tolstoy Farm to the 
    satyagrahis, helping not just to design their houses, but physically build them 
    as well. Because they needed footwear, he learned sandal making, which he 
    taught Gandhi — the many sandals that Gandhi would wear and gift during his 
    life are thanks to Kallenbach. 
    
    What drove him to all this is a mystery since Kallenbach also had a gift for 
    self-containment. This is not just because his letters have not survived. Even 
    where one hears his voice directly, for example in an account of the march to 
    Transvaal that he wrote for his sister, he does not foreground himself. There 
    was much drama during the march, some of it involving him — he was challenged 
    to a duel at one point, and faced the fury of other whites who saw him as a 
    traitor. Yet he sticks to facts, giving more importance to the logistics, which 
    he was in charge of, having to ensure they had food and shelter on their way, 
    than to his personal challenges and feelings. 
    
    There was something monkish about Kallenbach, which perhaps might explain his 
    lifelong bachelorhood. The only hint he ever gives is in a letter to his 
    brother, where he writes that after having met Gandhi he had given up first 
    meat, then fish “and for the last 18 months I have given up my sex life”. He 
    feels much better for all this, he says, but adds an interesting note: 
    “Notwithstanding, I shall change my life, even tomorrow — should I feel this 
    way of living should not suit me.” 
    
    >From his childhood in Germany, where he was an athletic youth, to his 
    >apprenticeship as a carpenter before becoming an architect, to his years in 
    >South Africa, as an architect and then activist, to his internment during WWI 
    >in a prison camp for enemy aliens on the Isle of Man, where he worked in the 
    >hospital and taught his fellow inmates, to restarting his architectural 
    >practice in South Africa, developing a whole suburb, to his support for the 
    >kibbutz movement in Israel — always with Kallenbach, the emphasis is on the 
    >material and physical, not in an unthinking way, but just willing himself to 
    >do what the circumstances required. 
    
    Perhaps the daftest part of the current allegations is the suggestion that 
    Gandhi left his family to be with Kallenbach; in fact, it was more like 
    Kallenbach was appropriated as an elder family member. He was held in some awe, 
    because he did have a temper that could be unleashed and tended to demand 
    strict behaviour all around. But he became a mentor to Gandhi’s sons, for 
    example, going to fetch Harilal back from Mozambique when he ran away in an 
    early revolt. He was particularly close to Ramdas, who lived with him a while, 
    but it was Manilal, who Gandhi left in South Africa to continue his work, who 
    had the longest association with him. He kept his connection with Gandhi alive 
    through letters, and two visits, in 1937 and 1939, living at Wardha and wearing 
    a khadi dhoti. 
    
    It was at the last visit where he had a remarkable encounter. Gandhi was 
    visited by a Captain Strunk, an associate of Hitler, who worked on the Nazi 
    party paper and functioned as a sort of roving agent for the party. Strunk 
    seemed to be visiting India partly to see if Gandhi’s views against Western 
    civilisation could dovetail with the Nazis. Gandhi listened to him politely, 
    and then pointed to Kallenbach who was sitting quietly next to him in a dhoti. 
    “Here is a live Jew and a German Jew, if you please,” he said. “I should like 
    to understand from you why the Jews are being persecuted in Germany?” Strunk 
    was entirely taken aback, and even apologised in a lame way. It was, as always, 
    an example of the service Kallenbach could provide just by his quiet presence 
    next to Gandhi.
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    • g_b on Kallenbach Vikram D.

    http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com/msg18863.html

     

  • Gandhi ‘Bisexual’ Author Denies Feebly.

    The Author’s denial seems feeble.

    He does not categorically deny that he has implied.

    He is very careful in declaring that ‘he did not use the word Bisexual any where’.

    That’s all.

    There are ways of insinuating with out explicitly stating.

    Best is to ignore the remarks.

    Decency demands that the Author states categorically that he does not say or imply that Gandhi was homosexual.

    Or he should provide Documentation /proof.

    Another Catherine Mayo’s book on  India?

    Gandhi said of the Author’s(book mentioned above ”sewage inspectors report”

    But again they have to earn few pieces of Silver.

    Gandhi does not need certification from semi pornographers.

    Pity them!

    The author of a new book on the life of Mahatma Gandhi angrily dismissed claims that he alleged Gandhi left his wife for a gay lover or was a racist despite upholding the cause of the downtrodden all his life.

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/book-alludes-to-gandhi-as-racist-bisexual/147365-40-100.html

    Jad Adams, who wrote a book last year that itself caused a storm for examining how Gandhi bathed with nubile young women and often shared a bed with one or more of his female followers, rejected any suggestion that Gandhi was gay.

    http://www.alternet.org/rss/breaking_news/542767/us_author_fights_back_in_gandhi_%27gay_lover%27_row/

    “If Gandhi committed acts of homosexuality, there would be ample evidence, either justifying them or expressing shame,” he said, adding Gandhi used the word “love” often in letters and speech.

    Adams said that he believed Kallenbach was homosexual and strongly attracted to Gandhi, but that the future independence leader, who had four children with his wife Kasturba, did not reciprocate.

    ‘Great Soul: Mahatma Gandhi And His Struggle With India’ is written by a former New York Times executive editor Joseph Lelyveld, who makes shocking claims about Gandhi and his conflicting personal ideologies on racism, political faddism and sexual perversion.

    The international daily ‘Wall Street Journal‘ on Monday published a review of the contentious book, quoting passages that pointed at the duality in Gandhi’s life in his profession of love for mankind as a concept while actually despising people as individuals

    The author’s reaction followed outrage in Indian media and followers of the man whom many consider as the architect of a successful civil disobedience campaign against the British Raj.

    Lelyveld said his book had been misinterpreted by the press.

    He said the word “bisexual” appears nowhere in the book and the word “racist” is used once to describe comments by Gandhi during his stay in South Africa.”

    The British Daily Mail reported “Gandhi ‘left his wife to live with a male lover’ new book claims”, while the Daily Telegraph said he had “held racist views against South African blacks.”

    Gandhi’s great-grandson Tushar Gandhi was quoted by the ‘Mail Today‘ daily as saying “these western writers have a morbid fascination for Gandhi’s sexuality. It only helps them sell their books. It is always open season with Gandhi.”

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/book-alludes-to-gandhi-as-racist-bisexual/147365-40-100.html

    Related:

    This week: Joseph Lelyveld revisits Gandhi’s years in South Africa; The Times’s John Schwartz on a new biography of Will Rogers; Julie Bosman has notes from the field; and Jennifer Schuessler has best-seller news. Sam Tanenhaus is the host. (Podcast Archive)

    Book Review Podcast (mp3)

    Jad Adams, who wrote a book last year that itself caused a storm for examining how Gandhi bathed with nubile young women and often shared a bed with one or more of his female followers, rejected any suggestion that Gandhi was gay.

    “If Gandhi committed acts of homosexuality, there would be ample evidence, either justifying them or expressing shame,” he said, adding Gandhi used the word “love” often in letters and speech.

    Adams said that he believed Kallenbach was homosexual and strongly attracted to Gandhi, but that the future independence leader, who had four children with his wife Kasturba, did not reciprocate.

    http://www.alternet.org/rss/breaking_news/542767/us_author_fights_back_in_gandhi_%27gay_lover%27_row/

  • Gandhi ‘left his wife to live with a male lover’.

    Anybody can write anything about any body.

    None can be more forthright about himself than Gandhi himself.

    In his Autobiography’My Experiments with Truth‘,Gandhi explains as to how he has been with his wife when his father was calling him and he regretted for not having attended to his father and spent time with his wife.

    He used to sleep by the side(Not with) of his great-niece to test if he has conquered lust.

    It is beyond people who can never look at a woman above her navel.

    Where is the proof ,where is the authenticity or documentation?

    Has The daily Mail crosschecked the documentation?.

    UK,it seems, though it is understandable,does not seem to have forgiven the ‘naked  fakir’, who signaled the death knell of an Empire.

    Mahatma Gandhi was bisexual and left his wife to live with a German-Jewish bodybuilder, a controversial biography has claimed.

     

    Lovers? Gandhi and Kallenbach sit alongside a female companion. A new book has controversially said that the pair had a two-year relationship between 1908 and 1910 Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370554/Gandhi-left-wife-live-male-lover-new-book-claims.html#ixzz1Ht5X7koa

     

     

    The leader of the Indian independence movement is said to have been deeply in love with Hermann Kallenbach.

    He allegedly told him: ‘How completely you have taken possession of my body. This is slavery with a vengeance.’

    Kallenbach was born in Germany but emigrated to South Africa where he became a wealthy architect.

    Gandhi was working there and Kallenbach became one of his closest disciples. .

    The pair lived together for two years in a house Kallenbach built in South Africa and pledged to give one another ‘more love, and yet more love . . . such love as they hope the world has not yet seen.’

    Controversial: The new book outlines many details of Gandhi's sexual behaviour, including allegations he slept with his great nieceControversial: The new book outlines many details of Gandhi’s sexual behaviour, including allegations he slept with his great niece

    The extraordinary claims were made in a new biography by author Joseph Lelyveld called ‘Great Soul: Mahatma Gandhi And His Struggle With India’ which details the extent of his relationship with Kallenbach like never before.

    At the age of 13 Gandhi had been married to 14-year-old Kasturbai Makhanji, but after four children together they split in 1908 so he could be with Kallenbach, the book says.

    At one point he wrote to the German: ‘Your portrait (the only one) stands on my mantelpiece in my bedroom. The mantelpiece is opposite to the bed.’

    Although it is not clear why, Gandhi wrote that vaseline and cotton wool were a ‘constant reminder’ of Kallenbach.

    He nicknamed himself ‘Upper House’ and his lover ‘Lower House’ and he vowed to make Kallenbach promise not to ‘look lustfully upon any woman’.

    ‘I cannot imagine a thing as ugly as the intercourse of men and women,’ he later told him.

    They were separated in 1914 when Gandhi went back to India – Kallenbach was not allowed into India because of the First World War, after which they stayed in touch by letter.

    As late as 1933 he wrote a letter telling of his unending desire and branding his ex-wife ‘the most venomous woman I have met’.

    Lelyveld’s book goes beyond the myth to paint a very different picture of Gandhi’s private life and makes astonishing claims about his sexuality.

    Revolutionary: The claims made in the book are likely to be disputed by millions of Gandhi's followers across the globeRevolutionary: The claims made in the book are likely to be disputed by millions of Gandhi’s followers across the globe

    It details how even in his 70s he regularly slept with his 17-year-old great niece Manu and and other women but tried to not to become sexually excited.

    He once told a woman: ‘Despite my best efforts, the organ remained aroused. It was an altogether strange and shameful experience.’

    The biography also details one instance in which he forced Manu to walk through a part of the jungle where sexual assaults had in the past taken place just to fetch a pumice stone for him he liked to use to clean his feet.

    She returned with tears in her eyes but Gandhi just ‘cackled’ and said: ‘If some ruffian had carried you off and you had met your death courageously, my heart would have danced with joy.’

    The revelations about Gandhi are likely to be deeply contested by his millions of followers around the world for whom he is revered with almost God-like status.

    Nobody from the Indian High Commission to Britain was available for comment.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370554/Gandhi-left-wife-live-male-lover-new-book-claims.html#ixzz1Ht4Ikcj5