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  • Krishna Enemy Greek King Kalayavana Killed By Tamil King

    I have written about the Tamil Chola King Muchukunda and his identifying the Shiva idol from Indra.

    The Seven temples of Shiva, the Sapthavidanga sthalas in Tami Nadu have these Lingas.

    Please read my article on this.

    Muchukunda lived in Hyderabad,India and helped Lord Krishna.

    Muchukunda was a comtemporary of Lord Krishna and Kala Yavana.

    Kala Yavana Lays siege to Mathura,India
    Kala Yavana Lays siege to Mathura

     

    Image credit.

    By Anonymous (India) – Online Collection of Brooklyn Museum; Photo: Brooklyn Museum, 1990.185.1_IMLS_PS4.jpg, No restrictions, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=14608189

     

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    According to the Vishnu Purana and Harivamsa, Kalayavana was the son of a Brahmin named Ganga, and a Yavana princess. This legend appears to indicate an invasion from across the Himalayas, meaning one of the Central Asian, Middle Eastern or Ancient Greek provinces. After the invasion by combined forces of Jarasandha of Magadha, Kalayavan and their grand alliance, Krishna departed to build the city of Dvārakā amidst sea, transported all his people and left them there.

    The legend goes like this: Lord Shri Krishna to save humanity from the evils of an yet another imminent battle with mighty Jarasandha flees Mathura [hence another name of Krishna, Ran-Chod Rai, one who fled war field] and moves his kingdom to newly builtDwarka. Kalayavan, who stood by Jarasandha chases Shri Krishna to Dwarka. Pretending to flee yet again from war field, Shri Krishna lures Kalayavana into the cave where the great king of Treta yuga, Muchukunda, one of the forefathers of Lord ShriRama was in a deep slumber of thousands of years after helping devas in an epic war with Asuras. Contemplating an absolutely undisturbed sleep he was given a boon that anyone who dared to disturb his sleep would get burnt to ashes immediately. Fast forward to Dwapara yuga, in the darkness deep inside the cave, Kalayavan mistakenly wakes up Muchukunda from his sleep, and sure to Muchukunda’s powers Kalayavan was decimated into ashes instantaneously with a fiery glance. And then Muchukunda was delighted to see Lord Shri Krisha there, who was none other than Lord Vishnu. Sri Krishna advises him to perform Tapas to cleanse the accumulated sins to attain Moksha (liberation). After meeting with lord, Muchukunda sets out of the cave. And the story narrates that he is astonished to see that all creatures had shrunken in size over time while he rested in cave, indicating long ages gone by. Muchukunda then goes north to Gandamadana Mountain and from there to Badrikashrama for doing penance and finally achieves liberation, the Moksha.

    Kalayavana means a Black Greek/from Middle east.

    Yavana is a term used from the Vedic times to denote Greeks,people from the middle east.

    References to Yavana is found in ancient Tamil Literature , Vishnu Purana,HariVamsa and Silappadikarm in Tamil.

    India imported horses  from these areas and exported silk,  Muslin,Diamonds, Emeralds ,Spices,Tigers, Elephants.

    ‘Experts say in the Edicts of Ashoka (c. 250 BCE) especially In the Gandhari Rock XIII : Antiochus is referred as “Amtiyoko nama Yona-raja” (lit. “The Greek king by the name of Antiochus”), beyond whom live the four other kings: “param ca tena Atiyokena cature 4 rajani Turamaye nama Amtikini nama Maka nama Alikasudaro nama” (lit. “And beyond Antiochus, four kings by the name of Ptolemy, the name of Antigonos, the name of Magas, the name Alexander”).

     

    Dipavamsa , Mahavamsa and Sasanvamsa
    Buddhist texts such as the Dipavamsa, Mahavamsa and the Sasanavamsa reveal that after the Third Buddhist Council, the elder (thera) Mahárakkhita was sent to the Yona country and he preached Dharma among the Yonas and the Kambojas.

    Milindapanha
    Another example is that of the Milinda Panha , where “Yonaka” is used to refer to king Menanders (160–135 BCE ) guards.

    Mahabharata
    The Vanaparava of Mahabharata contains verses in the form of prophecy complaining that “……Mlechha (barbaric) kings of the Shakas, Yavanas, Kambojas, Bahlikas etc. shall rule the earth (i.e India) un-righteously in Kaliyuga…” . This reference apparently alludes to chaotic political scenario following the collapse of dharmic dynasties in northern India and its subsequent occupation by non-dharmic hordes of the Yavanas, Kambojas, Sakas and Pahlavas etc.

    Others
    other Indian records describe the Yavana attacks on Saketa, Panchala, Mathura and Pataliputra, probably against the Sunga empire, and possibly in defense of Buddhism. The main mentions of the invasion are those by Patanjali around 150 BCE, and of the Yuga Purana, which, like the Mahabharata, also describes Indian historical events in the form of a prophecy:

    Yavana in other cultures.

    • Egyptians used the word j-w-n(-n)-’
    • Assyrians used the word Iawanu
    • Persians used the word Yauna or Yavanu
    • Sri Lankans – used the word Yona in Mahawamsa and other historic texts.
    • In Biblical writings, the word was Yāvān (and still is, in modern Israeli Hebrew – יוון)
    • In Arabic and Turkish it is Yunan See Also Sanskrit Yoni

     

     

    The history of Greece can be traced back to Stone Age hunters. Later came early farmers and thecivilizations of the Minoan and Mycenaean kings. This was followed by a period of wars and invasions, known as the Dark Ages. In about 1100 BC, a people called the Dorians invaded from the north and spread down the west coast. In the period from 500-336 BC Greece was divided into small city states, each of which consisted of a city and its surrounding countryside.

    There were only a few historians in the time of Ancient Greece. Three major ancient historians, were able to record their time of Ancient Greek history, that include Herodotus, known as the ‘Father of History’ who travelled to many ancient historic sites at the time, Thucydides andXenophon.

    Most other forms of History knowledge and accountability of the ancient Greeks we know is because of temples, sculpture, pottery, artefacts and other archaeological findings.

      NEOLITHIC PERIOD (6000 – 2900 BC)

    According to historians and archeological findings, the Neolithic Age in Greece lasted from 6800 to 3200 BC. The most domesticated settlements were in Near East of Greece. They traveled mainly due to overpopulation. These people introduced pottery and animal husbandry in Greece. They may as well have traveled via the route of Black sea into Thrace, which then further leads to Macedonia, Thessaly, Boeotia etc. The second way of traveling into Greece is from one island to another and such type of colonies has been found in Knossos and Kythnos..( http://www.ancientgreece.com/s/History/ )

    There are attempts to distort history by saying that the term Yavana was derived from Ionia and that the term was not is use when the term was Yavana was coined.

    Yavana is a name coined by the Vedic people with specific meaning and has no reference to Ionia for Ionia was named much later to the Vedic/Tamil Sangam period.

    Obviously they could not have derived the term from Ionia.

    To say that there  was no Greek History then, is  distortion of Facts s may be evidenced from the quote above.

    Note that the predecessors to Greek civilistion,like the Minoans, were influenced by the Vedic civilization and Indian kings were ruling Minoans and there is also the Tamil connection.

    Please read my articles on these

    References and citations.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalayavana

    https://controversialhistory.blogspot.in/2009/10/origin-of-yavanas-greek-myth.html

  • Greeks Yavanas Of Turvasu Yayati’s Son Fought Mahabharata War

    The connection between the Greeks and Sanatana Dharma ,Hinduism goes back a long time.

    The Vedic Literature,Puranas, Tamil Sangam Literature and Tamil Epics speak of Greeks, their riches and their valor.

    It is also noted that the Greeks lived among the Vedic Hindus.

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    The “Yona” Greek king of India Menander (160–135 BCE). Inscription in Greek: “BASILEŌS SOTĒROS MENANDROU”, lit. “of Saviour King Menander”. “MenanderCoinFront” by Wikipedia :en. Licensed under Public Domain via Wikimedia Commons – http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MenanderCoinFront.jpg#/media/File:MenanderCoinFront.jpg

    The Greeks participated in the Kurikshetra War along with Duryodhana on the advice of Karna.

    India Greece Trade Route 300 BC.Image.jpg
    India Greece Trade Route 300 BC.

    The Greeks were known as Yonas and Yavanas.

    The Yavanas, Greeks  were a part of those people considered as Mielchas, meaning those who strayed from the Vedic Dharma.

    Thee were initially following the Sanatana Dharma.

    They had caste system along the lines of Hinduism.

    Many of them were considered to be Kshatriyas and Vaisyas.

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    Yavanas were described to be beyond Gandhara. There was another country mentioned in the epic as Parama Yona, in the far west of Yavana. This could be the Ionia ofGreece, somehow related to Indian Ionians or Yavanas. The name Yavana could be the Sanskritized form of the name Ionia. Yavanas, Sakas, Pahlavas and Hunas were sometimes described as Mlechhas. Sometimes along with them, the Madras, Kambojas, Kekeyas, Sindhus and Gandharas were included. This name was used to indicate their cultural differences with the Vedic culture, prevailed in the Kuru-Panchala Kingdoms.

    “… in the ports of southern India, where the early Tamil poems of uncertain date speak of a settlement of the Yavanas.”(1) The same author (2) does not follow the assumption that Yavanas were Roman traders, although she points out that between the first-second cent BC up to and included the third-fourth cent AD, rightly or wrongly “the term yavana denoted an Ionian Greek”.(3) On pages 83–5 she makes mention of early Indian literature where foreigners were dubbed “yavana”, and points to an Asokan inscription where a border-people is given this appellation. In central and western India, she says, Yavana “figure prominently as donors to the Buddhist Sangha”.(4)

    (1) H.P.Ray, The Winds of Change, Delhi, 1994:49, 84; (2) ibid p. 52; (3) ibid p. 54; (4) ibid p. 84..

    Thus the Vedic society acknowledged their extra ordinary skills, but kept them as outcasts. An account in the epic depicts Yavanas as the descendants of Turvasu, one of the cursed sons of king Yayati. Only the fifth son Puru’s line was considered to be the successors of Yayati’s throne, as he cursed the other four sons and denied them kingship. Pauravas inherited the Yayati’s original empire and stayed in the Gangatic plain who later created the Kuru and Panchala Kingdoms. They were the followers of proper Vedic culture.

    Yavana was the name of one of the sons of Maharaja Yayati who was given the part of the world known as Turkey to rule. Therefore the Turks are Yavanas due to being descendants of Maharaja Yavana. The Yavanas were therefore kshatriyas, and later on, by giving up the brahminical culture, they became mleccha-yavanas. Descriptions of the Yavanas are in the Mahabharata (Adi-parva 85.34). Another prince called Turvasu was also known as Yavana, and his country was conquered by Sahadeva, one of thePandavas. The western Yavana joined with Duryodhana in the Battle of Kurukshetra under the pressure of Karna. It is also foretold that these Yavanas also would invadeIndia in the Kaliyuga . (Srimad Bhagavatam 2.4.18 [1])

    It later proved to be true in 326 BC.

    Among the tribes of the north and west are the Mlecchas, and the Kruras, the Yavanas, the Chinas, the Kamvojas, the Darunas, and many Mleccha tribes; the Sukritvahas, the Kulatthas, the Hunas, and the Parasikas; the Ramanas, and the Dasamalikas. These countries are, besides, the abodes of many Kshatriya, Vaisya, and Sudra tribes. Then again there are the Sudra and Abhiras, the Dardas, the Kasmiras, and the Pattis; the Khasiras; the Atreyas, the Bharadwajas etc. (6:9)

    King Yayati a king of the Lunar Dynasty is mentioned to have 5 sons, all of whom became the founders of many royal dynasties.

    The sons of Yadu are known by the name of the Yadavas: while those of Turvasu have come to be called the Yavanas. ..

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    The word “Yona” in the Pali language, and the analogues “Yavana” in Sanskrit; “Unan” in Urdu and “Jôbon” in Bengali, are words used in the ancient Indus Valley to designate Greek speakers. “Yona” and “Yavana” are transliterations of the Greek word for “Ionians” (Homeric Greek: Iaones, Ancient Greek: *Iawones), who were probably the first Greeks to be known in the East.

    The Yavanas are mentioned in the Buddhist discourse of the Middle Length Sayings, in which the Buddha mentions to the BrahmanAssalayana the existence of the Kamboja and Yavana people who have only two castes, master or slave. The direct identification of the word “Yavana” with the Greeks at such an early time (6th-5th century BCE) can be doubted.[1]

    Examples of direct association of these with the Greeks include:

    • The mention of the “Yona king Antiochus” in the Edicts of Ashoka (280 BCE)
    • The mention of the “Yona king Antialcidas” in the Heliodorus pillar in Vidisha (110 BCE)
    • King Menander and his bodyguard of “500 Yonas” in the Milinda Panha.
    • The description of Greek astrology and Greek terminology in the Yavanajataka (“Sayings of the Yavanas”) (150 CE).
    • The mention of “Alexandria, the city of the Yonas” in the Mahavamsa, Chapter 29 (4th century CE).

    In Sanskrit sources, the usage of the words “Yona”, “Yauna”, “Yonaka”, “Yavana” or “Javana” etc. appears repeatedly, and particularly in relation to the Greek kingdoms which neighbored or sometimes occupied the Punjab territories over a period of several centuries from the 4th century BC to the 1st century AD, such as the Seleucid Empire, the Greco-Bactrian kingdom and the Indo-Greek kingdom.[citation needed] The Yavanas are mentioned in detail in Sangam literature epics such as Paṭṭiṉappālai, describing their brisk trade with the Cholas in Tamilakam.

    The Legend of Krishna along with Balarama, Greek Ambassador worshiping Vishnu, establishing a Stupa In India being worshiped in Greece ma by found in this site under Hinduism.

    Citation.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yona

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yavana_Kingdom

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  • Gaya In Greece Palasha Dweepa Greeks Ancestor Pelasgus From India

    There is a sloka for the Palnet Ketu in Hinduism,

    ‘Palasa Pushpa Sanakaasam Thaarakarka Mastakam,

    Roudram Roudraatmakam Goram Tham ketum Pranamaamyakam’

    This is a Navagraha Mantra dedicated to Ketu.

    The Flower palasa is dedicated to him.

    ‘Butea Frondosa’ is the botanical name for what is known in Sanskrit as ‘Palasha’ (पलाश) tree, commonly called ‘the Flame of the Forest’ in English.

    Palasha Flower.jpg
    Palasha’ (पलाश) The Sanskrit name for ‘Butea Frondosa’ The Greek name ‘Pelasagus’ originates from Sanskrit ‘Palasha.

    The Puranas while describing the Earth, state that there is an Island Palasa dweepa.

    Petra Jordan Temple.jpg
    Petra Jordan Shiva Temple? The Petra Temple in Jordan has also been identified as Rekem-Gaya which means ‘Red-Gaya
    https://ramanisblog.in/2014/02/16/petra-jordan-ancient-shiva-temple/

    In Greek history, Pelasgus was the ancestor of the Pelasgians, a population that were the ancestors of the Greeks – that is they preceded the Greeks and were the source of all knowledge that one sees later in the so-called Greek civilization.

    There is no translation for the name ‘Pelasgus’ in Greek , because Pelasgians spoke a language that pre-dated Greek.

    “”Godlike Pelasgus, on the mountain chase,
    The sable (black) earth gave forth her mortal race.“

    The couplet is originally in Greek, and Asius uses the Greek word ‘gaia’ in the couplet which later interpreters translated as ‘earth’. But Edward Pococke in his book ‘India in Greece’ written in 1851 AD clarifies. He says that it was the word ‘Gaya’ that was tweaked by interpreters into ‘gaia’ in Asius’s work – it was Gaya (in Bihar in India) that ‘gave forth Pelasgus its race’.-Asius,Greek Poet ,700 BC.

    The word ‘Gaya’ that was tweaked by interpreters into ‘gaia’ in Asius’s work – it was Gaya (in Bihar in India) that ‘gave forth Pelasgus its race’

    “It is entertaining to view the process by which the Greeks first misunderstood a Pelasgic term, then fitted out a tale upon on their own translation of what they imagined to be Greek….”

    “The history and origin of ancient Greece were not clearly written down by the Greeks themselves, but ancient Indian writings such as the Puranas, the Mahabharata, and the Rajput genealogies may hold keys to solving some of these questions.”-Coen Vonk.

    The ancient Sanskrit texts Mahabharata, YoginiTantra, and the Vayu Purana mention the city of ‘Gaya’ in Bihar, then called ‘Pelasa’. According to the Vayu Purana the city of Gaya was named after an asura by the name ‘Gayasura’ – who practiced asceticism by praying to God Vishnu. He chanted and sang praises in the name of Vishnu, hence ‘geya’ (गेय) or ‘song’ – from Sanskrit ‘gai’ (गै), to ‘sing’, ‘chant’, or ‘sing praises’.

    ‘a race that in its slow migration towards the West took along with itself the glories of ancient Gaya, they have left their footprints on way. For en-route in their journey is the temple of Rekim-Gaya! The original Aramaic texts (Aramaic was the language that Jesus Christ spoke) say that the name of Petra, the ancient temple of Jordan, was Rekem-Gaya. ‘Rechin’ Gaya translates as Red-Gaya from Sanskrit – ‘rechin’ (रेचिन्) means ‘red’ as against the ‘black’ Gaia that Asius, the Greek poet wrote about in his verses on Pelasgus.

    Pococke traces the exodus of a huge number of people from Bihar (then called by various names including Pelasa and Magadh) towards the Western reaches of the world. In fact, he traces the name Macedonia to Magadha via Makadonia.

    The Greek language is a derivation from Sanskrit, therefore Sanskrit speaking people, i.e Indians must have dwelt in Greece, and the dwelling must have preceded the settlement of those tribes which helped to produce the corruption of the old language; or in other words, the people who spoke that language – i.e., the Indians, must have been the primitive settlers, or at least, they must have colonized the country so early, and dwelt their so long, as to have effaced all dialectic traces of any other inhabitants…“

    References.

    Mysteries of Ancient Greece, Coen Vonk.

    India In Greece by Edward Pococke (1851)

     

    Citation.

    Vedic Cafe.

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