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  • Europeans European Languages from India Sanskrit?

    I have written on human migration in the distant past from from India,then called Bharatavarsha.

    This is due to,

    1. The earliest DNA has been traced to Madurai, probably not the present Madurai in Tamil Nadu, but Thenmadurai which was located in Lemuria/Kumarikandam/MU.

    2. Out of Africa theory is now being discarded.

    3.When one studies the history of Europe one finds that a group has been living in areas what we now call Europe had been invaded/ joined by people from the East,Asia.

    The approximate time of this migrationabout 5000 years ago, fits in with the Third Great Flood in Asia recorded in Puranas and Ancient Tamil Classics.

    4. What of the people living already in these areas before these immigrants moved in?

    To understand this one has to remember that the landmass then was different from what it is today and Pangea and other super Continents have a clue.

    Please read my articles on Rodina, Pangea.

    Apart from checking these continents it is worthwhile researching the languages (present) of the people living in Europe.

    When one delves deep into the ancestors and the languages spoken by them leads to Franks,Huns,Gauls,Vikings and Celts.

    It is accepted that all the languages had their link to Celt.

    France had the influence of Franks , a Germanic tribe and I had written earlier that Huns who preceded Franks were from Bharatavarsha.

    Anglo Saxon came much later.

    In all, the present Languages of Europe go back to Celt.

    This leads to prehistoric period.

    The time assigned to this around 1900 BC, about 5000 years ago.

    This date can be pushed back based on the findings at Carnac in France and other sites in Europe.

    And Celt is traced back to PIE, Pan Indo Euripean Languages.

    ( This is different from Indo Eurooean Languages.

    This, in my opinion,is to ensure that Sanskrit does not ebter the picture.)

    Celt is assigned to PIE and an ancestry of Latin is postulated while some include Sanskrit with Latin as the language the later Euripean languages sprung from.

    One if he is desirous of finding facts must note that Humans had been living in Bharatavarsha during these ancient times and Vedic Sanskrit heads the Indo European Language group.

    Now as the time assigned to the Rig Veda is 5000 years ago and the migration from Asia to Europe had taken place at this time, it is safe to postulate that Sanskrit is the language from which the present European languages have sprung from.

    If one were to take Latin as the language from which the present European have come from one must find the origin of the people who had been speaking Latin.

    And it is back to Bharatavarsha.

    And one may remember Vedic Sanskrit is different from the Sanskrit which came later.

    I surmise that it is later Sanskrit from which these European languages assign thenselves to.

    This is du references found in the Vedas abiut the peoples who were not fron the Karmabhoomi of Bharatavarsha but from Bhigabhoomi of Milechas.

    That is from area not of Bharatavarsha.

    And one may note that Sanskrit Brahmi was earlier to Vedic Sanskrit and was the language of the less qualified abd they were treated as Barbarians by the Vedic people.

    To conclude,

    the present English,French,German,Romanian,Bulgarian and other languages trace their origins to Sanskrit and people from Bharatavarsha.

    References and citations.

    ‘ Franks (Latin: Franci or gens Francorum) were a collection of Germanic peoples that originated in the lands between the Lower and Middle Rhine in the 3rd century AD and eventually formed a large empire dominating much of western and central Europe during the Middle Ages. The Frankish Empire ultimately led to the birth of modern France and Germany and thus the Franks are seen as the forebears of the French and German peoples (in addition to Austrians, the Dutch, Luxembourgers and some other European nations

    …….

    Proto-Indo-European (PIE)[1] is the linguistic reconstruction of the common ancestor of the Indo-European languages, the most widely spoken language family in the world. Far more work has gone into reconstructing PIE than any other proto-language, and it is by far the best understood of all proto-languages of its age. The vast majority of linguistic work during the 19th century was devoted to the reconstruction of PIE or its daughter proto-languages (e.g. Proto-Germanic), and most of the modern techniques of linguistic reconstruction such as the comparative method were developed as a result. These methods supply all of the knowledge concerning PIE since there is no written record of the language.

    PIE is estimated to have been spoken as a single language from 4,500 B.C.E. to 2,500 B.C.E.[2] during the Neolithic Age, though estimates vary by more than a thousand years. According to the prevailing Kurgan hypothesis, the original homeland of the Proto-Indo-Europeans may have been in the Pontic–Caspian steppe of Eastern Europe. The linguistic reconstruction of PIE has also provided insight into the cultureand religion of its speakers.[3] As Proto-Indo-Europeans became isolated from each other through the Indo-European migrations, the dialects of PIE spoken by the various groups diverged by undergoing certain sound laws and shifts in morphology to transform into the known ancient and modern Indo-European languages.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks

  • Irish , ‘People(s) / Tribe(s) Of the Goddess Danu’

    I have written articles on the migration of the Peoples of the world.

    I have mentioned that whenever there was a surge of migration into Europe , there was a cataclysm. mostly , a Tsunami in India, then called Bharata Varsha

    During one such Tsunami , Satyavrata Manu,also called as Vaivasvatha Manu, the ancestor of Lord Rama migrated to Ayodhya to found the Ikshvaku Dynasty.

    Ikshvaku was Manus son.

    When we look into the history of the ancient Magyars, Bulgars, we shall find a migration coinciding with a natural calamity in India.

    Please read my post on Human  Migration.

    Shiva and his son Ganesha left through the Middle East, traversing through Europe the area now called as Britain, Ireland, Scotland, Africa,Americas before reaching the Arctic.

    The Rig Veda was composed in the Arctic.

    Then a group returned to India through Russia and Iran into India, in their wake leaving trail of their culture in Russia, where we find Arkaim , Hanuman Temple , the Legend of Kubera ,Sthree Kingdom and many more.

    The group which went through the middle east and the places mentioned in the article too left their marks in their Journey.

    One would find more of Shiva Ganesha artifacts in the regions they traveled.

    One finds the Nazca Lines in Peru, Shiva temple in Petra Jordan,Shiva Linga in Mecca,Mount Meru in Tanzania, Tamil influence among the Incas, Sanatana Dharma ancestry of the Mayas.

    One group , that of the Germanic tribe,played an important role in the formation of Europe.

    The Origin of germanic tribe has been explained in my article on Danube, the River of Danu.

    Danu is the primeval waters which this deity perhaps embodied.

    उत्तरा सूरधरः पुत्र आसीद दानुः शये सहवत्सा न धेनुः ||
    uttarā sūradharaḥ putra āsīd dānuḥ śaye sahavatsā na dhenuḥ ||
    The mother was above, the son was under and like a cow beside her calf lay Danu. 1.32.18 Rig Veda.
     
    Danu was the Mother of Vrtra. who was killed by Indra, the Chief of the Devatas.
     
    Danu was later described as the daughter of Daksha and wife Sage Kashyapa.
     
    She is described as the Mother of the Danavas.
    Celtic and Hindu Gods.bmp
    Celtic and Hindu Gods.

    As a word for “rain” or “liquid”, dānu is compared to Avestan dānu “river”, and further to river names like Don, Danube, Dneiper, Dniestr, etc. There is also a Danu river in Nepal. The “liquid” word is mostly neuter, but appears as feminine in RV 1.54.

    Now to the Celts and the Irish.

    Irish Mythology states that they are ,

    ‘Tuath(a) Dé Danan,

    The Tuath(a) Dé Danann (usually translated as “people(s)/tribe(s) of the goddess Danu”), also known by the earlier name Tuath Dé (“tribe of the gods”),[1] are a race of supernaturally-gifted people in Irish mythology. They are thought to represent the main deities of pre-ChristianGaelic Ireland.

    Tuath(a) Dé Danan descended from Nemed .

    According to the tradition, he is the leader of the third group of people to settle inIreland, who are referred to as the Muintir Nemid (Muintir Neimhidh, “people of Nemed”), Clann Nemid (Clann Neimhidh, “offspring of Nemed”) or Nemedians. The name ‘Nemed’ itself means “privileged” or “holy”.[1]

    Daksha Prajapathi, Kashyapa and Danu were described as Holy as the progenitors of the Human Race.

    Dakasha is the Chief of Mankind.

    Kashyapa was the father of devas, Asuras and Danavas.

    Giving birth to Celtic culture, the sacred mother Danube river was named for the Celtic mother Goddess Danu. Danu is also the name of an early Hindu mother Goddess of primeval waters. The descendants of the Goddess Danu, in both Celtic and Hindu culture, are called Children of Danu.

    Citation.

    Tuatha Dé Danann

    Ancient Vedas

    Danu (2016) by Radmer Lenasch, This is a tribute to the Celtic Goddess Danu combining her with the sentiment of the water bearer. Water is to purify and that is the theme of this time.

    https://mythus.fandom.com/wiki/Danu_(Irish_goddess)

  • Celts Ancestors of French English Worshiped Kali?

    I have written an article that the Celts were the descendants of Brahmins of India of Sanatana Dharma.

    River Danube is Danu.

    In Burgundy, France, a site has been excavated and it contains the image of Kali in a wine mixing vessel.

    Goddess Kali is an Amsa of the Devi.

    In Devi worship , Tantra Shastra, advocates certain practices that include drinking.

    Lioness is the vehicle of Devi.

    Notice the tongue protruding as in Kali’s Image.

    Sculpture of Goddess Kali.jpg
    Sculpture of Goddess Kali.

    Wine vessel Vix Grave
    A Gorgon head is on the outside of each of the krater’s three handles. “Cratère de Vix 0007”. Licensed under CC BY-SA 2.5 via Wikimedia Commons – http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Crat%C3%A8re_de_Vix_0007.jpg#mediaviewer/File:Crat%C3%A8re_de_Vix_0007.jpg

    “The area around the village of Vix in northern Burgundy, France is the site of an important prehistoric complex from the CelticLate Hallstatt and Early La Tène periods, comprising an important fortified settlement and several burial mounds. The most famous of the latter, the Vix Grave, also known as the grave of the Lady of Vix, dates to circa 500 BC. Her grave had never been looted and contained remarkably rich grave offerings (collectively sometimes known as the Trésor de Vix), including a great deal of jewellery and the Vix krater, the largest known metal vessel from antiquity, being 1.63 m (5’4″) in height.[1]

     

    • The vase proper, made of a single sheet of hammered bronze, weighs about 60kg. Its bottom is rounded, its maximum diameter is 1.27m, and its capacity is 1,100 litres (290 gallons). Its walls are only 1mm to 1.3mm thick. The krater was found crushed by the weight of the tumulus material above it. It had telescoped completely: the handles were found at the same level as the base. It was restored after excavation.
    • Its foot is made of a single moulded piece, its diameter is 74cm, its weight 20.2kg. It received the rounded bottom of the main vase and ensured its stability. It is decorated with stylised plant motifs.
    • The three handles, supported by rampant lionesses, weighed about 46kg each. Each is a 55cm high volute, each is elaborately decorated with a grimacing gorgon, a common motif on contemporary Greek bronzes.

     

    “Note by Dale D. The face is a typical Gorgon face from Classical Greece and as such something very well known in both Greek and Roman society. Jayasree interprests the face as being that of Kali. This puts the story of Perseus and Medusa into a new light. Now it has been suspected for a long time (and rejected bu Scholars for a long time) that the name “Perseus” means “The Persian” but even this Perseus is shown dressed in Persian style wearing what looks like pyjamas and curly-toed boots and wearing a Phrygian cap. He is said to have taken the head of Medusa-this gorgon mask -by murdering the goddess because it was death for her to look upon anyone. By stealing the head of the Goddess he intended to control her powers of dealing death by showing the head only to people he wanted to die. He took the head to Joppa and used it to kill the Sea Dragon Cetus (“Whale”, but usually shown as looking like a typical dragon) and to rescue princess Andromeda for his wife. Andromeda means “The one that men like to think about” and Kali in Greek means “Good-Looking”, similar to the English Comely. It seems the true meaning is that this Persian fellow came back from a trip into India with an icon of Kali and used it to magically curse his enemies to death-so he said-and a story was added that he had killed the Goddess and took her head (The face mask was then given over to the Greek Goddess Athena and became one of her symbols, she was supposed to wear it as a badge on her goatskin over-robe) ALL of these mythological figures are constellations; the story figures heavily in Greek Astronomy and together they cover a fair section of the sky, from near the North Pole to the constellation Cetus, which lies below the ecliptic and the band of the constellations of the zodiac’

     

    Citation.

    Vix Grave

    Frontiers of Anthropology

  • Celts Were Brahmins Danube Is Danu

    It is a known fact in Human migration that wherever there is a natural calamity in the form of a Tsunami, people of Asia migrated towarda the west;one heading through the Middle east and another through the Caucasus.

    A group led by Shiva with Ganesha left through the Middle east route and Satyavrata Manu’s Group went to Ayodhya to found Ikshvaku Dynasty, ord Rama’s Dynasty.

    That is the reason we find more of Shiva and Ganesha relics in the Mesopotamian area of Iraq,Kuwait,South America and Africa and more of Krishna relics in Iran, Russia.

    Shiva seems to find a place everywhere.

    One of the reasons is that Shiva must have returned to Sarasvati Valley from the Arctic after the compilation of Rig Veda.

    Though there are indications that the people of England, Celts did have a Sanatana Dharma connection, I have not been able to find a good research work till now on this subject.

    Now,

    There is enough evidence that the priestly class of the ancestors,Druids, of the Celts were…. Brahmins.

     

    And they performed the Vedic rituals.

    The Celtic Empire 700 -100 BC.
    The Celtic Empire 700 -100 BC.

     

    “The Druids of the ancient Celtic world have a startling kinship with the brahmins of the Hindu religion and were, indeed, a parallel development from their common Indo-European cultural root which began to branch out probably five thousand years ago. It has been only in recent decades that Celtic scholars have begun to reveal the full extent of the parallels and cognates between ancient Celtic society and Vedic culture.

    Celtic tribes in S.E.Europe‎(1,859 × 1,507 pixels, file size: 3.08 MB, MIME type: image/png)
    Celtic tribes in S.E.Europe, c. 1st century BC (in purple). “Roman period tribes in Illyria and Lower Pannonia” by Hxseek at en.wikipedia. Licensed under CC BY 3.0 via Wikimedia Commons – http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Roman_period_tribes_in_Illyria_and_Lower_Pannonia.png#mediaviewer/File:Roman_period_tribes_in_Illyria_and_Lower_Pannonia.png

    The Celts were the first civilization north of the European Alps to emerge into recorded history. At the time of their greatest expansion, in the 3rd century bce, the Celts stretched from Ireland in the west, through to the central plain of Turkey in the east; north from Belgium, down to Cadiz in southern Spain and across the Alps into the Po Valley of Italy. They even impinged on areas of Poland and the Ukraine and, if the amazing recent discoveries of mummies in China’s province of Xinjiang are linked with the Tocharian texts, they even moved as far east as the area north of Tibet.

    The once great Celtic civilization is today represented only by the modern Irish, Manx and Scots, and the Welsh, Cornish and Bretons. Today on the northwest fringes of Europe cling the survivors of centuries of attempted conquest and “ethnic cleansing” by Rome and its imperial descendants. But of the sixteen million people who make up those populations, only 2.5 million now speak a Celtic language as their mother tongue.

    The Druids were not simply priesthood. They were the intellectual caste of ancient Celtic society, incorporating all the professions: judges, lawyers, medical doctors, ambassadors, historians and so forth, just as does the brahmin caste. In fact, other names designate the specific role of the “priests.” Only Roman and later Christian propaganda turned them into “shamans,” “wizards” and “magicians.” The scholars of the Greek Alexandrian school clearly described them as a parallel caste to the brahmins of Vedic society.

    The very name Druid is composed of two Celtic word roots which have parallels in Sanskrit. Indeed, the root vid for knowledge, which also emerges in the Sanskrit word Veda, demonstrates the similarity. The Celtic root dru which means “immersion” also appears in Sanskrit. So a Druid was one “immersed in knowledge.”

    Because Ireland was one of the few areas of the Celtic world that was not conquered by Rome and therefore not influenced by Latin culture until the time of its Christianization in the 5th century ce, its ancient Irish culture has retained the most clear and startling parallels to Hindu society.

    Professor Calvert Watkins of Harvard, one of the leading linguistic experts in his field, has pointed out that of all the Celtic linguistic remains, Old Irish represents an extraordinarily archaic and conservative tradition within the Indo-European family. Its
    nominal and verbal systems are a far truer reflection of the hypothesized parent tongue, from which all Indo-European languages developed, than are Classical Greek or Latin. The structure of Old Irish, says Professor Watkins, can be compared only with that of
    Vedic Sanskrit or Hittite of the Old Kingdom.

    The vocabulary is amazingly similar. The following are just a few examples:

    Old Irish – arya (freeman),Sanskrit – aire (noble)
    Old Irish – naib (good), Sanskrit – noeib (holy)
    Old Irish – badhira (deaf), Sanskrit – bodhar (deaf)
    Old Irish – names (respect), Sanskrit – nemed (respect)
    Old Irish – righ (king), Sanskrit – raja (king)

    This applies not only in the field of linguistics but in law and social custom, in mythology, in folk custom and in traditional musical form. The ancient Irish law system, the Laws of the Fénechus, is closely parallel to the Laws of Manu. Many surviving Irish myths, and some Welsh ones, show remarkable resemblances to the themes, stories and even names in the sagas of the Indian Vedas.

    Comparisons are almost endless. Among the ancient Celts, Danu was regarded as the “Mother Goddess.” The Irish Gods and Goddesses were the Tuatha De Danaan (“Children of Danu”). Danu was the “divine waters” falling from heaven and nurturing Bíle, the sacred oak from whose acorns their children sprang. Moreover, the waters of Danu went on to create the great Celtic sacred river–Danuvius, today called the Danube. Many European rivers bear the name of Danu–the Rhône (ro- Dhanu, “Great Danu”) and several rivers called Don. Rivers were sacred in the Celtic world, and places where votive offerings were deposited and burials often conducted. The Thames, which flows through London, still bears its Celtic name, from Tamesis, the dark river, which is the same name as Tamesa, a tributary of the Ganges.

    Not only is the story of Danu and the Danube a parallel to that of Ganga and the Ganges but a Hindu Danu appears in the Vedic story “The Churning of the Oceans,” a story with parallels in Irish and Welsh mytholgy. Danu in Sanskrit also means “divine waters” and “moisture.”

    In ancient Ireland, as in ancient Hindu society, there was a class of poets who acted as charioteers to the warriors They were also their intimates and friends. In Irish sagas these charioteers extolled the prowess of the warriors. The Sanskrit Satapatha Brahmana says that on the evening of the first day of the horse sacrifice (and horse sacrifice was known in ancient Irish kingship rituals, recorded as late as the 12th century) the poets had to chant a praise poem in honor of the king or his warriors, usually extolling their genealogy
    and deeds.

    Such praise poems are found in the Rig Veda and are called narasamsi. The earliest surviving poems in old Irish are also praise poems, called fursundud, which trace back the genealogy of the kings of Ireland to Golamh or Mile Easpain, whose sons landed in Ireland at the end of the second millennium bce. When Amairgen, Golamh’s son, who later traditions hail as the “first Druid,” set foot in Ireland, he cried out an extraordinary incantation that could have come from the Bhagavad Gita, subsuming all things into his being [see sidebar right].

    Celtic cosmology is a parallel to Vedic cosmology. Ancient Celtic astrologers used a similar system based on twenty-seven lunar mansions, called nakshatras in Vedic Sanskrit. Like the Hindu Soma, King Ailill of Connacht, Ireland, had a circular palace constructed with twenty-seven windows through which he could gaze on his twenty-seven “star wives.”

    There survives the famous first century bce Celtic calendar (the Coligny Calendar) which, as soon as it was first discovered in 1897, was seen to have parallels to Vedic calendrical computations. In the most recent study of it, Dr. Garret Olmsted, an astronomer as well as Celtic scholar, points out the startling fact that while the surviving calendar was manufactured in the first century bce, astronomical calculus shows that it must have been computed in 1100 bce.

    One fascinating parallel is that the ancient Irish and Hindus used the name Budh for the planet Mercury. The stem budh appears in all the Celtic languages, as it does in Sanskrit, as meaning “all victorious,” “gift of teaching,” “accomplished,” “enlightened,” “exalted” and so on. The names of the famous Celtic queen Boudicca, of ancient Britain (1st century ce), and of Jim Bowie (1796-1836), of the Texas Alamo fame, contain the same root. Buddha is the past participle of the same Sanskrit word–“one who is enlightened.”

    For Celtic scholars, the world of the Druids of reality is far more revealing and exciting, and showing of the amazingly close bond with its sister Vedic culture, than the inventions of those who have now taken on the mantle of modern “Druids,” even when done so with great sincerity.’

    Citation.

     

    Celts Brahmins