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  • Mahabharata My Prologue.

    I am planning to post a series of articles on some interesting information ,facts,,stories from the Mahabharata.

    Mahabharata By Rajaji
    Mahabharata By Rajaji

    The source is the Mahabharata by Veda Vyasa in Sanskrit,

    I have tried to understand it with my limited knowledge of Sanskrit and Tamil and from a host of references ,mainly from Sri Maharishi Veda Vyasarin Mahabharata Parvangal( Sri Mahabharata Parvaas by Maharishi Veda Vyasa, Translation by E.Srinivasachariar,Sri.M.V.Ramanujachaariar of Kumbakonam and by Sri Ganapahy Sastrigal,The Guru of Kanchi Maha Periyavar,Karunkulam Krishna Sastrigal and A. Venkatesachariar, published by Sri Chakra Publications, Urappakkam ,Chennai)

    For the present i Ma quoting relevant portions from the Adi Parva, which I am currently studying.

    Corrections and suggestions from authentic sources  are welcome to make the posts more authentic.

    Now onto the post.

    Indians are accused of not possessing an authentic History.

    The accusations are from the West  and the self-styled Anglophiles and the Liberals(!?) from India.

    What is History/

    History is what one chooses to write or more accurately what one chooses to believe in.

    What is the History that the West believes in?

    Thucydides,Xenophon,Plato,GM Trevelyan,Macaulay, or Winston Churchill?

    Or is it the Bible,the reformation literature attributed to so many?

    No body saw Socrates, Plato,writing the History as they saw it.

    We have books, works attributed to them by the others and we believe in them.

    The same applies to the Bible, which is essentially a collection of fables with few facts thrown in.

    And mind you, one must remember that the Bible was compiled, not composed or written three hundred years after the death of Christ by Emperor Constantine to keep his Empire intact.

    Please read my posts on this filed under Christianity.

    And people know the motive behind Macaulay’ History once you look at his speeches in the British Parliament about the introduction of English as the medium of instruction in India, his general attitude to Indians, the Natives as they were /are called and his suggestions to handle the Natives of India.

    Compare this with the view of Warren Hastings about Indian Culture.

    Hastings was of the view that the Indian Culture and History was very rich!

    As to Churchill, well one knows what his attitude towards the Natives and the Independence of India/Indians are.

    Yet we believe in their versions of History!

    One forgets that the Indian Culture is more ancient and there are records,

    The criticism is that they are not in the written form.

    Does it mean that what ever some one says is untrue and what is written is true?

    if so, which is true, Hitler’s Mein Kampf or The History of the English Speaking Peoples?

    Any History is at first oral and then is written.

    We have a our tradition of handing down the culture and traditions by word of mouth.

    Writing part came later.

    The Vedas, Purana , all have been handed over to us by word pf mouth from Generation to generation.

    Just how reliable are these?

    Let me suggest you hear the intonations of the Vedas in any part of India.

    There is absolutely no variation at all between what is chanted in Kanyakumari, Hrishikesh,Puri or Dwaraka.

    I recall an incident when I visited the Hrishikesh,Haridwar in 1990.

    When I entered the Temples there I was chanting the Rudra, Chamaka.

    As I neared the sanctum sanctorum, I was called into the sanctum by the Panda with a remark,

    ‘Saab, you are chanting Krishna Yajur .This is rare in these parts.

    We have not heard for a longtime.

    Please come in and recite and perform Abhisheka”

    Such is the accuracy of mouth to mouth tradition.

    Look at the written History.

    Do we have consensus on any historical event/

    Even such a latest one as the world War II or even Indo-Pakistan War?

    No.

    History is as good as the writer and the people who believe in it,

    To me my ancestors are more reliable than those from the West.

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  • Did Aliens Invade Alter Genetic Code

    The theory that there were Aliens who invaded our earth in ancient times.

    This Theory has become alive now once  again with the History Channel showing a series of Videos on the subject.

    This thought gained currency on the basis of references in World Literature  and artifacts found .

    Erich Von Daniken, who formulated the initial Theory that the Aliens had invaded the Earth, altered our Genetic code and programmed our Evolutionary process.

    Ancient Map By Aliens
    Map By Aliens.

    He refers to ancient unexplained relics,monuments like the Crop Circles,Pattern in the earth resembling Airplane runways.

    He quotes extensively from m the Religious literature.especially from Hinduism and Aztecs, Mayan and Egyptian civilizations.

    Lord Rama is explained to be an extra terrestrial who came to earth and manipulated our Genes, Daniken says.

    He also compares the description of the effects of Brahmastra and the devastation of Hiroshima Nagasaki devastation after Atom bomb was dropped on them

    Both the descriptions are identical!

    The point is that the Ancients were not so ancient in terms of Technological development.

    Again there are references to Ape like beings like Hanuman who were highly intelligent.

    It does not mean it is not possible for beings of such nature to exist because we do not find them any more nor the thought on these lines are audacious.

    So were the thoughts of landing on the Moon and test tube babies.

    Firstly we have not fully explored the animal kingdom to prove our stand to be correct.

    Secondly it is not sensible not logical to conclude that these issues are figments of imagination unless and until we prove them to be so.

    References in The Bible and Koran.

    “ Were a scientist to read that the Quran says that Allah “sent down water from the sky” he would probably not be very impressed with such a “revelation.” Anyone with eyes could look up and see rain falling from clouds in the sky.

    But if that same scientist read that the Quran stated several times 1500 years ago that Allah “sent down water from the asteroid belt,” well, that might catch that scientist’s attention.

     

    The Arabic word Sama’ is ordinarily translated “sky,” “cloud” or “heaven.” But Sama’ came into Arabic from the Sumerians. To the Sumerians, Sama’ meant, literally, “hammered out bracelet,” and that is what they called the asteroid belt, which they believed to have been hammered out by a collision between a planet called Nibiru and a giant watery planet named Tiamet.

    The collision shattered half of Tiamet, making the “hammered out bracelet.” The other half was knocked into a new orbit and became the watery planet Earth.

    So, rather than saying that water falls from clouds – something any five year old knows – the Quran maintains that water originates from outer space. Many serious scientists, 1500 years later, are hypothesizing the same.

    In The Hidden Messages in Water, Masaru Emoto writes “my investigation into the mysteries of water makes me think that water is something not of this earth.”

    Louis Frank of the University of Iowa proposes that water arrived on this planet in the form of lumps of ice from outer space. Professor Frank’s theory is that ice balls bombarded the earth 40 billion years ago, creating oceans, and the same thing continues today. The earth’s gravity pulls ice comets into the atmosphere where they evaporate and become gas. Eventually, they fall to earth as rain or snow.

    The asteroid belt is utterly filled with “icy debris” or ice-water mixed with rock. If one of the Quran’s most basic verses could be so poorly translated and understood, how much more of the book’s true knowledge is obscured beneath layers of dogma, medieval ignorance and misunderstanding of Arabic and the important loan-words that entered Arabic from Kamitic (ancient Egypt), Sumerian, Canaanite Syriac, Babylonian and even Sanskrit?

    Establishment religion and establishment science have both failed to satisfy modern humanity’s need to know and experience our origin and potential.(http://amirfatir.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/et.htm)

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    In the following passages from the OT, selected from among hundreds, we see how a correct translation of shamayim reveals the true origin and habitat of the Bible’s extraterrestrials. The NT also contains hundreds of such mistranslation examples (indeed the kingdom of heaven—or cosmic empire—is one of the key features of the gospel as taught by Yeshua). But for now we shall concentrate on the OT that forms the foundation for early Christian beliefs relative to this ancient Hebrew theological view. With the Hebrew shamayim accurately re-translated, the Bible’s cosmic theology becomes quite evident while the unique literary quality of the texts is also, arguably, adequately maintained.

    “Is not God in the height of outer space? Look at the distant stars, how high they are!” Job 22:12

    “The Lord is in his Holy Temple; the Lord’s throne is in outer space.” Psa 11:4

    “And the universe will praise thy wonders, O Lord; Thy faithfulness also in the assembly of the holy ones. For who in outer space is comparable to the Lord?” Psa 89:5,6

    “The Lord of hosts is mustering the army for battle; they are coming from a far country at the end of the universe.” Isa 13:4,5″

    (http://www.biblerealitycheck.com/WingsTreatise.htm)

    So the issue rages on.

    Why do we resort to Alien theory?

    It is because of astonishment at the technological developments made in the last fifty years and it is worth noting that the Earth’s population has grown five times over in just fifty years , a phenomena known to have occurred fifty thousand years ago!(History Channel , Mankind on 10 Aug 2013)

    It is also worth noting that a spate of scientific developments and Theories flowers in the Nineteenth  Century.

    Curiously there is no development of this nature in the twentieth century!

    (Please read my posts on this)

    There seems to be a purpose with which Nature seems to reveal its secrets.

    And look at our technological  innovations in the last twenty-five years!

    Mind boggling.

    Even our biological evolution , with girls coming of age at the age of nine or ten, increased longevity and the disproportionate increase in  the population of the elderly.

    We are astounded at this fact as this process of development needs direction and purpose.

    So we conclude that there should have been an Intelligent Being that had charted our course.

    We can also think that we ‘ human beings could have developed the advanced developments and our histories  might be incorrect!

    It is better to keep an open mind on this issue till we get additional facts.

    And do not forget the UFO.

    Read my posts under Astrophysics.

    http://ancientaliens.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/piri-reis-map/

    Daniken’s Books.

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_8?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=eric%20von%20daniken%20books&sprefix=eric+von%2Cstripbooks%2C784&rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3Aeric%20von%20daniken%20books&sepatfbtf=true&tc=1376136569871&ajr=sabc

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  • Adam Eve Lived around The Same Time.

    There was a report quoting a Study that Adam and Eve did not exist at the same time, indicating that the Genesis version of Evolution man might be wrong.

    Now another Study suggests that they lived ‘around the same time”.

    It is not clear whether they lived at the same time.

    So we are back to square one.

    The emergence of man at the first instance is of interest.

    Adam and Eve.
    A new study of 69 men from around the world found ‘Y-chromosomal Adam’ walked the Earth between 120,000 and 156,000 years ago, much earlier than previously believed. It places him nearer to Eve who was around 99,000 to 148,000 years ago the analysis found.
    Image;Daily Mail UK.

    The Bible says that Eve was creased out of Adam’s Ribs,

    Hinduism states that Daksha Prajapati was the first Man and a  woman was created by Brahma.

    He married her.

    Scientifically speaking,one has to know first whether one can be created out of another.

    If true,this leaves another question.

    From where did they spring fro?

    Again from another Being?

    This becomes a case of Circular Reasoning, which is a fallacy in Logic.

    It all boils down to one thing.

    is there a Reality?

    If so, is it One or Many?

    Story:

    The Book of Genesis puts Adam and Eve together in the Garden of Eden, but geneticists’ version of the duo — the ancestors to whom the Y chromosomes and mitochondrial DNA of today’s humans can be traced — were thought to have lived tens of thousands of years apart. Now, two major studies of modern humans’ Y chromosomes suggest that ‘Y-chromosome Adam’ and ‘mitochondrial Eve’ may have lived around the same time after all1, 2.

    When the overall population size does not change (as is likely to have happened for long periods of human history), men have, on average, just one son. In this case, evolutionary theory predicts that for any given man there is a high probability that his paternal line will eventually come to an end. All of his male descendants will then have inherited Y chromosomes from other men. In fact, it is highly probable that at some point in the past, all men except one possessed Y chromosomes that by now are extinct. All men living now, then, would have a Y chromosome descended from that one man — identified as Y-chromosome Adam. (The biblical reference is a bit of a misnomer because this Adam was by no means the only man alive at his time.)

    Similarly, the theory predicts that all mitochondrial genomes today should be traceable to a single woman, a ‘mitochondrial Eve’. Whereas the Y chromosome is passed from father to son, mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is passed from mother to daughter and son.

    Adam and Eve lived in Africa at the same time – but probably never met, scientists claim.

    It was previously believed that ‘Y-chromosomal Adam’ and ‘Mitochondrial Eve’ – the most recent common ancestors to males and females – lived at completely different times.

    But a new study of 69 men from around the world found ‘Y-chromosomal Adam’ walked the Earth between 120,000 and 156,000 years ago, much earlier than previously believed.

     

    It places him nearer to Eve who was around 99,000 to 148,000 years ago the analysis found.

    But the researchers say it is ‘extremely unlikely’ they were exact contemporaries.

    Initial estimates for the male MRCA ranged from between 50,000 to 115,000 years ago.

    Geneticist Professor Carlos Bustamante, of Stanford University, California, said: ‘Previous research has indicated the male most recent common ancestor (MRCA) lived much more recently than the female MRCA. But now our research shows there is no discrepancy.’

    Source:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2382653/Adam-Eve-DID-live-Africa-time–probably-didnt-know-other.html

    http://www.nature.com/news/genetic-adam-and-eve-did-not-live-too-far-apart-in-time-1.13478

  • Man Murders Child For Not Doing Homework

    A man is reported to have murdered his daughter, for not answering questions from her Home work.

    This, while his wife and mother were watching TV .

    The incident was reported to have taken place in Bangalore, on 25 July 2013.

    In this case the motive is reported to be vendetta against the man’s first wife who committed suicide or murderer d by him couple of years ago.

    In another case a child was murdered for not reading the Bible and was doing Home work.

    Leave alone the vendetta angle.

    This raises two questions.

    Home work for children.

    Children from Pre KG are given Home work, when the child cn not even understand concepts,.

    The child which does not complete the Home work is humiliated in the class room by being made to sit separately or made to stand outside the class room, parents are called in and warned.

    Home work for children beyond their age.
    Home work for children.

    What sort of system is this?

    As it is parents, in their ambition to make their wards become a Money making machine have robbed children of their child hood.

    Teachers too contribute this.

    There is more to Life than scoring Rank in the school.

    This is inhuman.

    Secondly Religious fervor.

    By reading Bible one does not become a Spiritual master.

    Story:

     

    A furious man killed his eight-year-old daughter with a rolling pin because she didn’t answer questions during homework.

    The gruesome incident took place at Avalahalli, near Byatarayanapura, off Mysore Road, on Thursday night. Satyanarayan Singh, 43, a plastic utensils trader, told police that he was provoked into hitting his daughter Neha as she didn’t answer questions during revision.

    Satyanarayan and his mother Padma Bai have been arrested. Police suspect Padma Bai bore a grudge against Neha and abetted him in the act. A Class II student of SGS School, Mysore Road, Neha was Satyanarayan’s daughter from his first wife, Asha Singh, who had committed suicide in 2006. Satyanarayan was acquitted in the dowry harassment and murder case of his wife. He married again and has a two-year-old daughter from his second wife. The family stayed in a rented house in II Cross, Avalahalli.”

     

    samally: A Muslim man in Egypt killed hiswife because she was reading the Bible and then buried her with their infant baby and an 8-yearold daughter. The girls were buried alive! He then reported tothe police that an uncle killed thekids. 15 days later, another family member died. When they went to bury him, they found the 2 little girls under the sand -ALIVE! The country is outraged over the incident, and the man will be executed.. The older girl was asked how she had survived and she says:-‘A man wearing shiny white clothes, with bleeding wounds in his hands, came everyday to feed us. He woke up my mom so she could nurse my sister,’ she said. She was interviewed on Egyptian nationalTV, by availed Muslim woman news anchor. She said on publicTV, ‘This was none other than Jesus, because nobody else does things like this!’ Muslims believe Isa (Jesus) would do this, but the wounds mean He really was crucified, and it’s clear also that He is alive! But, it’s also clear thatthe child could not make up astory like this, and there is no way these children could have survived without a true miracle. Muslim leaders are going to have a hardtime to figure out what to do with this, and the popularity of thePassion movie doesn’t help! With Egypt at the centre of the mediaand education in the Middle East ,you can be sure this story will spread. Christ is still turning theworld upside down! Please let this story be shared. The Lord says, ‘I will bless the person who puts his trust in me.’ Jeremiah 17….. Mark8:38 which says, ‘Thereforewhosoever shall be ashamed of Me and my Words in this adulterous and sinful generation,the Son of Man shall also beashamed of him when He comesin the glory of His Father with the holy angels.

    Source:

    http://www.nairaland.com/1093161/man-kill-wife-daughter-reading#12828077

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Man-kills-8-year-old-daughter-over-homework/articleshow/21383722.cms

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  • The Bible Christ Shroud Of Turin, Myths

    There is a widely  held belief that the Christians were persecuted from The days of Christ and the point is stressed and reinforced by Christian Literature.

    The three facts(?)of Christianity.

    Christ did not exist.

    ‘The Christ myth theory (also known as Jesus myth theory or Jesus mythicism) is a range of arguments that question the existence of Jesus of Nazareth or the entirety of his life story as described in the Christian gospels.[1][2][3][4] The most sweeping version of the myth theories contends that there was no real historical figure Jesus and that he was invented by early Christians. Another variant holds that there was a person called Jesus, but almost all teachings and miracles attributed to him were either invented or symbolic references. Yet another version suggests that the Jesus portrayed in the New Testament is a composite character constructed from multiple people over a period of time..

    Historical Evidence.

    The historical Proof for the existence of Christ is very thin.

    Jesus Christ.
    Christ.
    1. “Jesus never existed: The gospels describe a virtually, and perhaps entirely, fictitious person. There are no grounds for supposing that any aspect of the Jesus narrative is rooted in history.
    2. Jesus existed but little is known about him: There is enough historical evidence to conclude that Jesus existed, but the reports are so unreliable that very little can be said about his life and teachings with confidence.
    3. Jesus existed and we can know about him: Historical research can reveal a core of historical facts about Jesus, but he is often different from the portrayals in the New Testament. Many of the sayings and miracles attributed to him are likely to be myths.
    4. The gospels present a mostly historical Jesus: When the New Testament accounts are compared with other sources they provide a by and large reliable historical portrait of Jesus, and critical historiography should not rule out the possibility of supernatural occurrences.”

    So much for the founder of Christianity.

    The Bible.

    The Bible was composed nearly after three years after the death of Christ(?) by Constantine by assembling a Conclave of Cardinals   an analysis of over three hundred versions of the would be Bible and the one that would suit the policies of Constantine to consolidate his Empire was chosen.

    Not only that.

    Constantine too became a Christian Convert to hold on to his Kingdom.

    The New Testament , of  King James’s version was more of a retort to the Pope., because he did not give permission to King James to marry Anne Boleyn.

    “The First Council of Nicaea was convened by Emperor Constantine the Great upon the recommendations of a synod led by Hosius of Córdoba in the Eastertide of 325. This synod had been charged with investigation of the trouble brought about by the Arian controversy in the Greek-speaking east.[16] To most bishops, the teachings of Arius were heretical and dangerous to the salvation of souls. In the summer of 325, the bishops of all provinces were summoned to Nicaea (now known as İznik, in modern-day Turkey), a place easily accessible to the majority of delegates, particularly those of Asia Minor, Georgia, Armenia, Syria, Palestine, Egypt, Greece, and Thrace.

    This was the first general council in the history of the Church since the Apostolic Council of Jerusalem, the Apostolic council having established the conditions upon which Gentiles could join the Church.[17] In the Council of Nicaea, “The Church had taken her first great step to define doctrine more precisely in response to a challenge from a heretical theology.”[18]“

    Constantine also established the Church, the temporal Authority to consolidate his Kingdom.

    The Shroud of Turin.

    The Shroud of Turin, believed to be the cloth that was used to wrap the body of Crucified christ.
    The Shroud of Turin.

    The Shroud of Turin was believed to be  the cloth that was used to wrap the body of Christ after he was crucified.

    Carbon Dating established beyond doubt that the Cloth belonged to the 13th Century AD!

    ‘The Shroud of Turin, a linen cloth commonly associated with the crucifixion and burial of Jesus Christ, has undergone numerous scientific tests, the most notable of which is radiocarbon dating, in an attempt to determine the relic‘s authenticity. In 1988, scientists at three separate laboratories dated samples from the Shroud to a range of 1260–1390CE, which coincides with the first appearance of the shroud in France in the 1350s.[1]

    These results are generally accepted by the scientific community. This dating has been questioned by some, and doubts have been raised in particular regarding the representivity of the sample that was taken for testing.”

    This is how th early Christianity was conceived , more as a Political tool.

    Even the hunting down  of Christ and eventual Crucifixion was more of a Political Act, the charge was Sedition!

    Now onto the persecution of Christians.

    References.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_14_dating_of_the_Shroud_of_Turin

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory

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